In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, Nick, Ana, Amy, and Lacey go full detective mode as they break down Track 6 of Evermore: “No Body, No Crime” featuring HAIM.

From Taylor Swift's love for Olive Garden and another shade of red (Merlot?!), to her obsession with true crime podcasts and Dateline, this song is layered with great storytelling and country noir vibes. The hosts dive into fan theories, lyrical genius, and Taylor’s friendship with HAIM—including surprise performances on the Eras Tour.

 Discover how Taylor weaves real-life details, dark humor, and storytelling mastery into one of her most cinematic tracks. Plus: Would you want to be named in a Taylor Swift song? Hear the hilarious debate!

 Featuring:

Taylor’s YouTube live chat about the song

“Crime Junkie” podcast’s iconic April Fool’s Day episode

Fan theories linking No Body No Crime, Ivy, and Exile

Olive Garden dreams, wine crimes, and hot takes!

 No body, no crime... but there’s no doubt you’ll love this deep dive.

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