Kerry Lutz and Martin Armstrong discussed the current state of government and public trust, expressing concern over the polarized nature of the United States and the global erosion of public trust in governments. They also discussed the upcoming election, including potential candidates and the impact of debates and convention locations. The conversation also touched on the frustration and absurdity surrounding excessive laws and the resulting punishments, as well as the challenges of reaching politicians and the influence of the "swamp." Martin also presented a strategy to initiate a war before Trump takes office in order to manipulate him, and warned of a potential false flag event in August to September. They also discussed the economic repercussions of sanctions and the division of the world economy due to the use of the dollar as a weapon, emphasizing the impact on global trends and the destruction of the world economy by the head of SWIFT. Overall, the meeting covered a wide range of topics related to government, politics, and economics, with a focus on historical parallels and potential future implications. Find Martin here: ‪ armstrongeconomics.com Find Kerry here: FSN  and here: Inflation.Cafe