*** NEW INTRO: Carinn and Kate revisit this episode, their first ever, recorded six months and over 25 episodes ago. Everything after the 45 minute mark is original content unlike anything else out there. We hope you enjoy!

Normal People: a slow, deep complicated

*** Complicated Woman Rating - what makes Marianne complicated?

*** The best scenes with Marianne. The best can mean sweetest, funniest, most badass, most growth. Anything we love.

*** The cringiest scenes from Marianne. Cringy scenes make you squirm, but part of being a complicated woman is doing things that feel or come off as cringe-worthy. Sometimes it’s self-sabotage, sometimes it’s growth, but it’s always part of the process of becoming our complicated selves.

*** Why Carinn gets in trouble for recommending this book.

*** We play arm-chair therapist in What’s Your Damage, Heather? An homage to the iconic line in Winona Rider’s Heathers, we discuss how Marianne got to be who she is today. (37:07)

*** We tell you What She Said, the segment where we share some of our favorite first person quotes from Sally Rooney, the author of Normal People. (44:47)

*** Gaze into our Crystal Ball. Have you ever wondered where Marianne and Connell ended up after the book was over? We speculate on their status six months later and five years later. Kate gets very real and Carinn gets buck wild. (58:25)

*** Kate and Carinn discuss the bliss and the weight of really “being seen”. Is it a mirror showing your true self or is it an anchor that won't let you move on and be free? (65:30)

*** Supporting Characters. Which side character did you want more of? Which would you have cut completely? Our answers were Lorraine, Sadie, Lucas and Marianne’s brother, listen to find out where they fell and why. (71:26)

*** Takeaways. Carinn says communication isn't always fun, but it's better than getting it as wrong as Marianne and Connell. Kate thinks transformative love has a profound impact on all your other relationships. (74:35)

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