We delve into the important things in life: Pies, as ever, gravitational waves (whatever they are) and post-it notes.

In this episode Rob tries to teach Jon about new scientific discoveries and almost succeeds. Jon blethers on about how he deals with procrastination. The chaps then masticate as quietly as they can and compare pies.

We've improved the sound quality and added a jingle. What larks. Next time we might add a website.

In this episode Rob questions Jon about his dubious qualifications as a designer and how he got to what he does today. Jon then drivels on inexorably until Rob breaks off the interview to eat a ham hock and pea pie, while Jon continues his trawl through the lower echelons of pies.

The inaugural episode of our new podcast about but not about design. We have no idea how or what we are doing. There's no jingle yet. Join the confusion!

In this episode Rob tells Jon how he got into design and how he kicked off his illustration career. Jon then makes Rob jealous by talking about his new iPad Pro and Apple Pencil. Then he eats a pork pie and drinks some beer just to rub it in.