(NOT) A Real Artist

(NOT) A Real Artist

By Tamara Sagathevan, Iris Fritschi-CussensHealth & FitnessMental HealthArtsVisual Arts
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  • EP14: Sondheim & Rollercoasters ft Eamonn O'Dwyer

    Let us introduce you to Eamonn O'Dwyer who joined us for a conversation on innate talent, criticism and rollercoaster theme music!

     

    Eamonn O’Dwyer is an award-winning composer-lyricist of Guyanese-Irish descent. His work spans genres from live orchestral to electronica, contemporary musical theatre, films & video games. He is an Associate of the Royal Academy of Music, and to date his works have been performed in the US, Russia, Australia and Japan.  

     

    Find & follow Eamonn:

    www.eamonnodwyer.com

    Songs on Spotify

    @eamonnodwyer



    Other artists mentioned:

    Vivaldi; Sondheim; Tupac; Big Money 😉

     

    Key Takeaways

     

    1. Next time you’re in a theme park, try and notice the music: You might hear the tension, thrill and eventually calming effect of the soundtracks around you, all curated to enhance your experience. This is a concept that you can pull into your own art and visual practices!

    2. Getting paid and having a deadline for your artistic work means that you can’t wait for the romantic idea of inspiration to strike, you just need to get it done.

    3. Create your own jumping-off points for your art. Whether it be creating art parts or prompts before you paint, to help you get into the work when ideas are thin on the ground.

    4. How you feel about your work doesn’t always correlate to the subject matter. The work you make can be raw or dark, but that might not spill into how you feel as you create or how you feel about the work after it’s done.

    5.Theatre is a collaborative art form. Like all collaborative work, it means there could be feedback which could sting IF taken negatively. Alternative ways to think about the experience of feedback is I understood a different thing compared to the person I was working with. AND nothing is ever wasted! You’re always learning and honing your craft.

    6. It’s okay to recycle and be inspired by your own work.

    7. Sondheim, the composer, and playwright, once said, that if he could bottle any element from the theatre, it would be the element of surprise!

    8. Innate talent might get you to a certain point, but work and learning on your own OR with other people, will get you the rest of the way.

    9. Primary education, positive reinforcement and encouragement in the child is extremely important. And it’s a social responsibility for us to cultivate those access points and spaces for them, and ourselves.

    10. As teachers in this vulnerable space which is art making, we have power and influence that must always come WITH RESPONSIBILTY.

    11. The difference between Gatekeeping and Teaching is massive. Actively encourage and educate those who want to grow and learn. Using gentleness and empathy as your mode vs. degradation and shame.

     

    Thank you for listening to the NOT a real artist podcast! Have you had any insights during this episode? Let us know on [email protected]. If you haven’t already, please follow this podcast or rate it and share it with everyone who wants to listen to good shows!

     

    Iris | IG: https://www.instagram.com/iris.impressions.art/

    Tamara | IG: https://www.instagram.com/ruskea_art/

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    49 min
  • EP13: Art of Body ft Caylee Grey

    Welcome to season 3! We're doing things a bit differently and having interesting conversations with GUESTS! Our first guest is Caylee Grey, and we had a positively mind-blowing conversation about art and the body.


    Caylee Grey is a South African artist who fills her journals with loads of mediocre art. Imperfect, heart-led, gloriously mediocre art. Caylee's the Fairy Artmother of Get Messy Art, the kindest art journaling community on the internet, and author of the book by the same name.


    Find & follow Caylee:


    @cayleegrey | @getmessyartjournal

    https://getmessyart.com

    Body of Art class


    Other artists mentioned:


    Demi Demi - Tough Times Never last


    Key Takeaways


    1. Society tells us all the ways in which our body is too much or not enough. We can reclaim our connection and relationship to our bodies through art. Give it permission to be art itself, to see it as an artist, to live in it as an artist. 
    2. We can look at the details of our body, both outside and inside, as a way of starting a dialogue and connection with our body and appreciating it. 
    3. Combining art and the body can help bring awareness to the parts of ourselves that we’ve buried or covered over.
    4. When we have negative feelings about our body it can be helpful to try and identify whose idea it is. Is it yours, or is it an echo of society or a company that profits when you feel insecure or not enough? 
    5. Art provides a playground where there are no rules, but you might still encounter rules that you internalized and carry with you that aren’t actually your own. If you’d like a reframe, try using the word ‘filter’ instead of rules and explore that. 
    6. Use all the things you’re saving for a special day. The perfect project is the one that’s happening right now. 
    7. When you feel good, you can use that energy to put strategies in place to pre-emptively take care of yourself for when you’re not feeling good. 
    8. The hack to mental health stability is to feel your feelings. Whether you feel them now or later, you’re going to feel them
    9. If you’d like a reframe for taking a lesson, think of it as an invitation instead
    10. When we show up vulnerable or in a messy way, we give others permission to be vulnerable with themselves. 
    11. It’s about showing up with ease. When you show up the way that is easiest for you, you can bring your best self.


    Enjoyed the podcast? Please rate, review & share it with anyone who might enjoy it or find it useful! Thank you for joining us!


    Email us: [email protected] (you can let us know what you enjoyed, what your 'AHA' moments were, or any questions you'd like us to answer or topics you'd like us to discuss in a future episode)


    Iris

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iris.impressions.art/


    Tamara

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ruskea_art/

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    1 hr 9 min
  • EP12: Ask the Artists

    In episode 12 we answer all of your questions! Things listeners asked us about ranged from practical tips around art supplies, to requests for help with confidence and the inner critic, to how to develop your own style, to curiosity on how to make a podcast and lots more.


    Mentioned in this episode:


    The Gap by Ira Glass - https://vimeo.com/85040589


    Tamara's Rubric: https://www.ruskea.com/post/art-swatch-rubric


    This is the final episode of season 2. We'll be taking a short break and will be back mid 2023 with a brand new season in which we totally shake things up! We can't wait to share it with you soon.


    Miss us and looking for something to do while you wait for season 3 to drop? Please rate, review & share (NOT) A Real Artist with anyone who might enjoy it or find it useful! Thank you for joining us!


    Email us: [email protected] (you can let us know what you enjoyed, what your 'AHA' moments were, or any questions you'd like us to answer or topics you'd like us to discuss in a future episode)


    Iris

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iris.impressions.art/


    Tamara

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ruskea_art/

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    1 hr 20 min
  • EP11: The Lonely Artist

    In episode 11: we hear about how loneliness can appear in your art practice, what that may feel like and how to foster connection with other artists


    Artists mentioned in this episode:

    Honorata | Marieke Blokland | Miranda Meulenkamp |Tamara Laporte


    Key takeaways:

    1. When talking about loneliness we could mistakenly conflate solitude with loneliness.
    2. Solitude is more self-imposed and good for growth, it feels like a choice, loneliness can sometimes be imposed by others, and often feels less like a choice.
    3. Sometimes the way we feel about people as a whole, is determined by the type of people we engage with and the environment in which we engage with them. As an example, we could feel we don’t like people, when we could just be meeting the wrong people, in the wrong format
    4. You don’t need to be with someone in person to engage with them meaningfully or connect.
    5. You can create and collaborate with others online, sometimes with more security or autonomy and comfort, than in person.
    6.  A current feeling of loneliness could sometimes be a past loneliness that you’re re-experiencing, which is valid.
    7. Music, podcasts, body-doubling, and vlogs are effective ways of working with your loneliness in the studio or in life. It’s OK to need and use tools.
    8. When in an uncomfortable silence, feeling the compulsion to break it, you can ask, am I in this moment feeling a need to influence any thought this person might have of me? OR is it genuine yearning to connect?
    9. When we connect with other people or artists, we could start seeing things or ourselves through a different lens.
    10. When you have a fear of loneliness or a fear of hurting other people, you might come across a person who wants to engage with you, but does it in a way that violates boundaries or makes you feel uncomfortable.
    11. In that moment ask yourself: does this drain my energy, are we both getting a nett win from the interaction? Then choose your response time and whether you give attention to the interaction, as what you give attention grows. Remember that you cannot be everything to everyone
    12. Cultivate self-awareness around other people, so that you can go where friendship wants to blossom, at the same time, have some healthy confidence, that you are cool, and people DO want to meet with you.
    13.  Loneliness and unworthiness can sometimes work hand in hand, and help each other self-fulfil
    14. So dear listeners, please remember you are worthy of love, of friendships, and cool art dates!


    Enjoyed the podcast? Please rate, review & share it with anyone who might enjoy it or find it useful! Thank you for joining us!


    Email us: [email protected] (you can let us know what you enjoyed, what your 'AHA' moments were, or any questions you'd like us to answer or topics you'd like us to discuss in a future episode)


    Iris

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iris.impressions.art/


    Tamara

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ruskea_art/

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    45 min
  • EP10: Recovering Perfectionist

    In episode 10 we dig into perfectionism: how it affects us, why we hate it and how we kick it in the butt.


    Key takeaways:


    1. Using the term recovering perfectionist as opposed to just perfectionist is a way of acknowledging your perfectionist self whilst also pointing to the work you are doing to change things
    2. Perfectionism can be used as an excuse to keep working on something for minimal return
    3. We can roughly divide perfectionism in two, on the one hand inward perfectionism: i.e. I need myself or what I do to be perfect. And outward perfectionism: i.e. I need what others are or do to be perfect
    4. If you experience a harsh inner perfectionist when working alone, try to collaborate with someone you like and respect and see if it helps lessen the feeling
    5. Often perfectionism is simply a protection against our fears. If you never start, you protect yourself against failure. 
    6. Perfectionism and the inner critic are closely related. The former wants to make things perfect, the latter criticises what you’ve done. Both talk about a feeling of ‘not good enough’. 
    7. When we compare ourselves to others or have an unattainable standard it can give rise to a feeling of ‘what’s the point’. But often it’s better to do something imperfectly than not do it at all. Showing up imperfectly is real and honest
    8. Let fun be your compass
    9. Can you try to actively be an anti-perfectionist? What rules can you break? What would that look like in your life and art?
    10. There is a tension point between what you want to be and what you are. You have to decide to what extent changing yourself or embracing yourself as you are is the right choice for you.
    11. If you keep putting in the work at a standard that is doable and sustainable to you, then in time the level you used to perceive as unattainable perfection will be the norm. You only grow by doing. 
    12. There’s a difference between being proficient and being a perfectionist. Don’t let perfectionism stand in the way of learning and becoming proficient in your chosen field.


    Enjoyed the podcast? Please rate, review & share it with anyone who might enjoy it or find it useful!

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    Email us: [email protected] (you can let us know what you enjoyed, what your 'AHA' moments were, or any questions you'd like us to answer or topics you'd like us to discuss in a future episode)


    Iris

    Website: https://iris-impressions.com/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iris.impressions.art/


    Tamara

    Website: https://www.ruskea.com/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ruskea_art/

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    58 min
  • EP9: AI Art

    In this episode, we try and establish our feelings and thoughts towards AI.


    Key Takeaways:


    1. Since the beginning of time humans have wanted to express themselves via art, and with the use of tools. A.I generators are a tool.
    2. If we look at this tool in isolation, it is a potentially exciting development for those who are differently abled and may only have tech available to create. It’s also valuable for those who want to keep their art practises more independent of other artists.
    3. If we remove that isolation, we can see that: AI models have been trained unethically, without consent from Artists or compensation to artists.
    4. A.I Models are only as good as the data it has been trained on: that data consists of all the current issues we have in our society: Racial bias, patriarchal values, sexualisation of women.
    5. While seeing such beautiful images being generated by the click of a button can be disheartening we say: You will always find something to dishearten you in your art practise AND the value of art lies in the process of doing art, and not just the end result.
    6. Ways to pad yourself against AI if you’re an artist uncomfortable with it: form connection with your clients and community, we all want art from people we know and care about. Remember that story matters, keep telling your story, using your preferred tools.
    7. There are ways to opt out of having your art used for training AI models in the future. Resources to see if you’ve been trained also exist: https://haveibeentrained.com
    8. Always remember that there is a lot of money and work going into telling us how we should feel about the tech that we get presented to us by big tech companies. And that opinions about new things are often strong.
    9. Therefore we advise you to have a look at AI and investigate it on your own before formulating an opinion.


    Enjoyed the podcast? Please rate, review & share it with anyone who might enjoy it or find it useful!

    Thank you for joining us!


    Email us: [email protected] (you can let us know what you enjoyed, what your 'AHA' moments were, or any questions you'd like us to answer or topics you'd like us to discuss in a future episode)


    Iris

    Website: https://iris-impressions.com/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iris.impressions.art/


    Tamara

    Website: https://www.ruskea.com/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ruskea_art/


    Until next time! Bye!

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    33 min
  • EP8: No Pain(t), No Gain

    In this episode, we question whether pain is necessary to create, and dig into the 'tortured artist' stereotype.


    Key Takeaways:

    1. Being engaged with negative or painful feelings, does not make you a negative person.
    2. The tortured artist archetype might exist because: a) What you engage with the most, might be more likely to come up in your art. b) As artists we are encouraged and expected to share more feely and openly about ourselves and inner workings, that means happiness, sadness, and everything in-between. c) We might share those private things with the public, more than other professions, which can give us the label of tortured
    3. We wonder when pain is a strong part of your artistic process, what happens when pain is absent? The same can be said for any other emotion or state of being.
    4. Connection with the viewer or public through your art, doesn’t have to solely be based in pain. Happy, compassionate, and loving art ALSO provides connection. Note, that sometimes these works of art, can also be borne out of pain.
    5. Ask: Do we need to be melancholy or live in squalor, to work relentless hours, sacrificing self, relationships etc. to be seen as valid artists? If yes, why? Do we perhaps believe that there is a price to pay to be an artist? OR do we see suffering as noble?
    6. There are distinctions between the types of pain in art, the pain before coming to the canvas, the pain in the process, the pain in the physical execution and even the pain in the final painting.
    7. There is legitimacy in ease. A quick painting is valid, and is only quick because of the work you put into learning and doing, prior to said painting
    8. 141 hours spent on 1 painting, is as valid as 141 paintings created each hour. 
    9. An important benchmark with art, is not that it is torture, or appears tortured but rather that it is true to yourself.
    10. When you have requirements of yourself that are not a part of your process, such as flogging yourself to sit at the easel for hours on end, that is when you torture yourself. This torture does NOT lead to more art.
    11. Sometimes we might avoid pain, or aim to fix or defeat it, in order to fit a narrative of overcoming. We may say we are inspired by pain, or create inspite of pain, those modes are valid.

    There is another mode that we can try too though; and that is to hold hands with pain, and create with it, side by side.


    Tamara Laporte:https://bit.ly/3zFnnGW

    On Van Gogh: One of the periods where he painted the most paintings and his most loved.


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    Iris

    Website: https://iris-impressions.com/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iris.impressions.art/

    Tamara

    Website: https://www.ruskea.com/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ruskea_art/

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    32 min
  • EP7: Art Goals

    In this first episode of season 2 we're talking about goals! Goal setting, artist goals, biz goals and how to have achievement and forward momentum without losing the connection to yourself or burning out.


    Artists and media mentioned:


    Win by J Rock, Tamara's hustle & grind song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrO46CJd9ns

    Big Magic, book by Elizabeth Gilbert:https://amzn.to/3IZXXJn

    Miranda Meulenkamp: https://www.instagram.com/art_by_mirandameulenkamp/


    Key Takeaways:


    1. You can operate within different types of energies. For example hustle & grind energy, executor energy, incubator energy, guru energy. It is not necessary to only exist within one type of energy in order to achieve your goals. 
    2. Sometimes you plant the seeds of something you want to reap in the future, but when it comes to fruition, it isn’t what you intended or expected. If we get too attached to our goals we might miss out on the value of the unexpected result. 
    3. Beware of getting so busy with DOING that you forget to take stock of why you are doing it or where you are going
    4. Make conscious decisions about your goals that are in line with your inner self, so that the energy required is sustainable
    5. It’s not always “go time”, sometimes you’re not supposed to be working on your goal. We need rest.
    6. The only person who can break the pattern of always needing to be doing something is you
    7. It is OK to need support systems to help us know when to take breaks, or to give us permission to do things
    8. When you have a goal, make sure that it’s yours and not someone else’s
    9. Sometimes you start and don’t know where you’ll end up, but you just have to follow the thread
    10. Putting pressure on your art to provide in a monetary sense is a big burden. Having a day job frees you from that burden even if it can feel like a burden in itself. 
    11. Think of your goals as a Lego castle. To avoid overwhelm, break it down to its smallest part and work on that. 
    12. Set yourself up for success and have clear actionable goals. Think of the language you are using, is it clear, specific and personal to you?
    13. Review your goals. Are things working for you? Have you reached your goal? Look at yourself with kindness in this process


    Enjoyed the podcast? Please rate, review & share it with anyone who might enjoy it or find it useful!

    Thank you for joining us!


    Email us: [email protected] (you can let us know what you enjoyed, what your 'AHA' moments were, or any questions you'd like us to answer or topics you'd like us to discuss in a future episode)


    Iris

    Website: https://iris-impressions.com/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iris.impressions.art/


    Tamara

    Website: https://www.ruskea.com/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ruskea_art/


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    1 hr 3 min
  • EP6: No Offense!

    Today we discuss the concept of the term "No Offence", how to offend less, and how to be less offensive with feedback. And how to be brave enough in your art even if it causes offence!


    Artists and media mentioned:

     

    Emma Petitt: https://emmapetittart.com/

    Kathryn Hack: https://www.facebook.com/KathrynHackArt

    Naomi Jayne: https://www.instagram.com/naomi_jayne_art

    Flora Bowley: https://florabowley.com/

     

    Key Takeaways

    1.      If we try and preface our comments with; “I think and I feel” vs. no offense, we might come across as less offensive.

    2.      Courage to potentially offend in your art, can open up doors for other people to discover more about their art, and themselves.

    3.      Get yourself a team of cheerleaders. Your a-team, and be a cheerleader to a select few too.

    4.      Cultivate spaces where you can speak freely and don’t let people’s offense overshadow the work you’ve done to be unfiltered.

    5.      If you’re worried about being offensive in your art, check: can you truly be satisfied with not painting what you want? Can you protect yourself from every “offended” person in the world?

    6.      Is there an unconscious aspect inside you, offended and reluctant about what you want to paint.

    7.      Don’t seek out offense.


    Enjoyed the podcast? Please rate, review & share it with anyone who might enjoy it or find it useful!

    Thank you for joining us!


    Email us: [email protected] (you can let us know what you enjoyed, what your 'AHA' moments were, or any questions you'd like us to answer or topics you'd like us to discuss in a future episode)


    Iris

    Website: https://iris-impressions.com/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iris.impressions.art/


    Tamara

    Website: https://www.ruskea.com/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ruskea_art/

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    48 min
  • EP5 : Social Media Sucks!

    Or does it? Let's talk about social media, ever present evil for Tamara, and beautiful point of connection for Iris! How can we use social media better? How do we cultivate a healthy relationship with it?


    Artists and media mentioned:

     

    Iris’s Get Messy Video: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CdbcQoqF3fh/

    Averys Blog: https://fieldnotesfromthefuture.com/

    Annie McNee (Inspired to Write): https://www.instagram.com/inspiredtowrite/

    10 Reasons to Delete Your Social Media: https://g.co/kgs/xFcPpW

    Holly McLaughlin: https://www.instagram.com/hollymclaughlin_art


    Key Takeaways

    1. There is a difference between the promise of social media, or a nostalgic view of it, and the reality of social media as it is today

    2..Certain platforms offer more longevity than others. TikTok and Instagram reels are much more short-lived than videos on YouTube. 

    3. Ask yourself how you interact with social media. What interactions do you remember? What interactions are meaningful to you?

    4. Reshare your creations, don’t think your creations are only valuable when they’re new

    5.Post at the time you can, rather than waiting for the perfect moment and then never doing it. 

    6.   If you’re not paying for something, then you are the product

    7.Social media platforms want to keep you there for as long as possible. Some content is much more easily consumed than what you are ACTUALLY on the platform to see, eg. stories on YouTube or Reels on Instagram. We can have a healthier relationship with social media if we are more aware of what weare there for, and what we want out of it

    8. Rather than taking the social media metrics such as likes or followers as the yardstick, define for yourself what satisfaction or success on social media looks like. 

    9. Don’t correlate your self-worth or the value of your art to how well you’re doing on social media. 

    10.To prevent social media stealing your time, turn off all notifications. Yes, you ARE allowed to do this! 

    11.Curate your feed. You are allowed to only follow those that you want, you are not obligated to follow someone back. 

    12.The amount of advice on what and how you should and shouldn’t share on social media is overwhelming and contradictory. At the end of the day, you are the only person who can decide what is right for you, based on how you feel.

    13. Sometimes the fear of criticism or negative comments is much worse and more influential than when it happens. The criticism we are most scared of is usually that which confirms our worst fears about ourselves or something that mirrors an old childhood wound.


    Iris

    Website: https://iris-impressions.com/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iris.impressions.art/


    Tamara

    Website: https://www.ruskea.com/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ruskea_art/

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    1 hr 2 min

About (NOT) A Real Artist

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Welcome to Not A Real Artist! A podcast by Iris Fritschi-Cussens and Tamara Sagathevan, discussing relatable creative topics with honesty and humour. We hope you enjoy the podcast!

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