Nearly two years after the Oct 7 attacks on Israel, Jasmine sits down with two Israelis, Etan Nechin and Iddo Elam, who made the rare choice to refuse to serve in the Israeli military.

Etan is a writer for the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, where he has written extensively about the Netanyahu government's policies and Iddo is an activist against the occupation, apartheid and the genocide in Gaza.

She asked them about their decision and how it’s impacted their lives, what their Israeli identity means to them, and what kind of conversations are happening inside Israel right now about the country’s future. She also asked them what messages they had for both Israeli and American/Western policymakers who have so far supported the Netanyahu government almost unconditionally.

This week, the view is from Israel.

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