Brandon and Dan start this podcast talking about music which quickly turns into a conversation about how much, as a culture, we expect kids to do too much which segues into a general discussion about work culture in the U.S.

You can join the discussion and vote for your favorite podcast title at r/sanderson: https://www.reddit.com/r/Sanderson/

Can be listened to almost everywhere podcasts can be found.

Produced by Adam Horne

Sound engineering and editing by Daniel Thompson