Patrick and Harry talk a bit about Bill Ackman’s tennis game, if summer league has juice, and Patricks coverage of the Tour De France. We also go into the mailbag and discuss rare YouTube videos, if football can be intellectual, and who we’d want to fight Mark Zuckerberg. If you want us to read one of your questions give us a review on apple pods or shoot us an email! Lastly…we’ve got a big annoucnement coming Wednesday!!

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We are joined by Defector’s own Maitreyi Anantharaman for an early/mid-season WNBA check-in! We try to figure out who’s the 3rd best team in the league, talk about the Fever’s interesting start, and Maitreyi expands on her theory that bigs dominate the league. Plus, Patrick eats crow on the Valks, reveals he’s in multiple WNBA team-specific group chats, and Harry presents some AI findings.

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We are joined by TrillBroDude and NBABabySecret of You Know Ball podcast to talk all things NBA SLOP. We talk about the origins of slop, jesters’ privilege, the kangs as Americas team, Warriors’ greatness as a ZIRP phenomenon, Millennial hopecore in free agency, the newsroom but for shams, the addelsons, and some of the most interesting moves in free agency.

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harry and patrick talk nba finals, Haliburton’s really sad injury, winners and losers of the Finals and Sam Presti’s abundance team building. Then Harry argues that the KD trade announcement at Fantics Fest was staged.

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We are joined by director Mike Nicoll to talk about his new documentary THE SPOILS: Selling the Future of American Basketball. We talk AAU, Shoe Company Deep States, the strange contradictions around wanting young athletes to get paid, the spirit of ball, and even DEBATE a little bit about whether or not bitcoin could be a possible solution to some of these tricky problems.

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Available on Amazon Prime here: https://www.primevideo.com/detail/The-Spoils-Selling-the-Future-of-American-Basketball/0SUHC8PIUQC9WIC152NHLPS8CS

Note: For YouTube, the film is dropping in 4 parts, on this schedule:

Part 1: Friday, June 13th (out now!)

Part 2: Friday, June 20th

Part 3: Friday, June 27th

Part 4: Friday, July 4th

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Senior writer for Yahoo and OG basketblogger Dan Devine joins the show from Indianapolis to give us a finals scene report. We talk OKC’s Depth, the Pacers dark magic/shotmaking, playing with Shai vs playing with Steph. Dan also talks about what gamer basketblogging looks like in 2025, and Patrick gets sad about how Haliburton used to be a king. Finally, Harry and Patrick talk about the Valks’ exciting start.

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Dan’s Game 2 Piece:

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Ock Sportello returns to discuss his excellent blog about the NBA’s swag crisis. We talk to him about why he wrote the piece, why he thinks it resonated with the basketball blogging community, and why the streets yearn for Free Darko. We also try to make sense of the swag crisis, how it fits into broader culture, and how he’s responsible for Mina Kimes saying “Zynternet”. Finally, Patrick gives a little preview of his time at a crypto conference, and we end by naming some cool basketball players.

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PTFO talking about the Ock’s piece

Former NBR guest Matthew Roberson discusses whether the Knicks are cool (and quoting another nbr guest Noah Kulwin (yktvs))

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Owen Phillips of The F5 returns to discuss a whole mess of stuff. We talk contrarian NBA award takes, if group think is on the rise, if group think is even bad (it is), what its like blasting an idea into the zeitgeist, the nba’s swag crisis, git hub pulls, whether there's ethical soyfacing under capitalism, and much more!

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Owen Phillips on the 2025 awards data

Mike Shearer on NBA groupthink

Patrick on a guy who voted a bunch of kings for awards last year

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Harry and Patrick are back talking Ant’s IRL aura, talking hoops on r/redscarepodcast, Kith, The Iraq War, and Harry’s theory of a Bing Bong Hero’s Journey. Then Harry rank the four possible finals matchups across a slew of different metrics and talk about how the Weak Link Basketball theory has gone global.

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Owen Phillips’s Weak Link Theory Piece

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Defector’s Maitreyi Anantharaman joins the pod to talk about the upcoming WNBA season, the mix of macro trends and micro trends in W coverage, shorting the fever, friendly rookies, and new WNBA offenses. Also Harry gives a quick recap of the RTRS draft party.

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