Nothing Without Us

'For so many people in my generation who were raised with that kind of colorblind approach, they've always thought there's not no racism at all, but they haven't realised that they've internalised so much of it. Because it is in all, it's in the media, it's in the culture, it's all in there. So it's for us about kind of trying to say to people, it's okay to see that now. And we need to start talking about it, and having really deep meaningful conversations about it, and how that might be impacting on the work that we're doing.'

In this episode Angie talks to Claire Bloor about her work with First Nations people in Australia, and her move to working with victims of sexual violence in the UK. They discuss the need to embrace intersectionality in working with women, and how being luminary can transform an organization.

Claire has over 20 years’ experience working in the charity sector starting her career in Dublin as a caseworker working with homeless people, she has gone on to manage a broad range of support services in both the UK and Australia including youth justice, employment, training, education, and Aboriginal programs.

Find more information about SARSAS at www.sarsas.org.uk

Claire mentions the work of Reni Eddo-Lodge http://renieddolodge.co.uk/

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A full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-claire-bloor

This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“I remember talking to my PhD supervisor at the time, and saying I'm really getting fed up with being the angriest person in the room. And his response was, you need to find yourself some new rooms.”

In this episode Angie talks to Darren Chetty about his origin story, including his varied family background in the Netherlands and South Africa, and his focus on collaboration through his disparate work in anti racism in primary schools, academic writing, philosophy of education, Hip Hop Ed and DEI consultancy. 

Darren Chetty taught in London primary schools for twenty years before becoming a Teaching Fellow at UCL Institute of Education. Darren’s award-winning research focuses on philosophy for children, multiculturalism and racism. He is the author of the essay ‘You Can’t Say That! Stories Have to be About White People’ in the British Book Award-shortlisted anthology The Good Immigrant, edited by Nikesh Shukla. Darren reviews and writes about children’s literature for Books for Keeps and is an educational consultant. 

Twitter @RapClassroom

https://ioe-ac.academia.edu/DarrenChetty

Welsh (Plural), edited by Darren Chetty

Wasafiri Magazine

How to Disagree, Darren Chetty and Adam Ferner

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A full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-darren-chetty

This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

"I often think I developed a way of being that is quite convenient, but actually on reflection, I think I was already destined to be that person. But notice, when I look back on how helpful that chameleon like aptitude was, as I made my way through school, because I was very able to put people at ease, very able to make people feel as though my race was not going to cause them any problem."

In this distilled episode, Angie reflects on her childhood and first teaching experience, in coversation with Claire Stewart-Hall.

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Listen to the full episode - Season 2 Episode 3 https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/angies-origin-story

A full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-focus-angies-origin-story

This episode was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media

‘I really want schools to be places that shine a light on their own challenges in DEI and that shine a light on their own great practice because I believe that that kind of unrelenting focus and that willingness to look at every dark corner will change communities, will change society, will change individuals who work in organisations and will allow organisations to innovate in as yet unimagined ways. I think luminary organisations are great for the world. And the organisations that embrace this work boldly, are some of the most creative, curious, courageous and exciting places to work.’

In this solo episode, Angie gives you an insight into the thinking behind the Being Luminary Programme and outlines how the programme works within schools and colleges.

Find out more about the Being Luminary Programme at www.angelabrowne.co.uk/diversity-inclusion-consulting

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A full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/so-what-is-the-being-luminary-programme

This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

‘Just like every other story has been partial and imperfect, just like the coloniser story has been partial and imperfect, I give myself licence to tell a partial and imperfect story about myself’

This episode is part two of Angie’s conversation with her long time friend and colleague Claire Stewart-Hall.

They discuss the contributions that Angie’s previous roles have made to her current practice, modelling flexibility and reflection, self care, deciding what to let in, and Angie’s commitment to aesthetics.

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A full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/following-the-breadcrumbs

This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

“I think I'm more taken by the breathtaking nature of what would happen if we just decentralised some of those voices, those activities that are currently dominated by the majority And I've become increasingly aware of just how brilliant people are.” 

In this episode, the tables are turned, and Angie is interviewed by her long time friend and colleague Claire Stewart-Hall.

They discuss Angie’s origin story, from her childhood move from North London to Devon, through her teaching career to her motivation to work in the DEI space. 

Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.uk

A full transcript of this episode can be found at  https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/angies-origin-story

This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

'In a perfect world, diversity, equity and inclusion would be an aspirational goal in any society, any classroom, any workplace.'

This is a really short episode because I wanted to make an audio recording of a recent newsletter that has gone out from Being Luminary towers. And it's because it's been on my mind over the last couple of weeks. The newsletter itself was a response to some critique I had from a friend about the relevance and importance of diversity, equity and inclusion work. The feeling from my friend was that not only was this work not relevant or important, but that it was dangerous. And so I wanted to respond to that, and put a newsletter out to that effect earlier this week. And so this is for those of you that would rather ingest your material through your ears. And for those of you that are not signed up to the newsletter, and if so, why not? If you do want to sign up to the newsletter, by the way, just head over to my website and click Sign Up to Newsletter. 

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A full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-defence-of-dei

This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and 

Emily Crosby Media

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‘The system really needs to build in more accountability for it to do its work properly, and then to hold us to account for our silence and our avoidance of what are clearly institutional issues.’

I've been reflecting this week on the murder of Chris Kaba. And thinking about how two years ago, people were very, very exercised about the murder of George Floyd. There's been relatively little notice taken of Chris Kaba in this country, somewhat overshadowed by the recent death of Queen Elizabeth II and so it's just given me pause, really, again to think about race, and how we talk about race and how we acknowledge the deep, existing abiding racism that exists in many of our institutions. 

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A full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/what-do-you-think

This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

A quick update from Angie, about Season 2 of Being Luminary, which begins on Thursday 6th October 2022.

Make sure you follow the podcast, wherever you're listening, so that you don't miss the new episodes coming soon.

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A full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/looking-forward-to-season-2

This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music is by Martin Austwick. 

The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

‘If you haven't got someone symbolising the strength and power of diversity, as well as having the systems to back it up. It fails, it doesn't work. Whenever we're doing anything, and whenever we're producing anything, we say why’

In this distilled episode Angie talks to Will Smith, CEO of Greenshaw Learning Trust, about using experience to motivate change, and bringing people onboard by embracing diversity of opinions and explaining why.

Will Smith is a Physics teacher, and was leader of the PiXL network for a number of years. He is now Chief Executive Officer of Greenshaw Learning Trust, a multi academy trust of over 20 schools. www.greenshawlearningtrust.co.uk

Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.uk

Listen to the full episode - Episode 12 https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-will-smith

A full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-focus-will-smith

This episode was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media