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  • Lest we Forget

    “At the heart of diversity, equity, inclusion work for me, is a desire to be respectful enough to know who we remember and why.”

    In the wake of the terrorist attack in Buffalo, and the anniversary of the death of George Floyd, a reminder of why and for whom we do this work.

    Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.uk

    A full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/lest-we-forget

    This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

    24 min
  • In conversation with Abby Bayford

    “There never is a barrier; it's only a perceived barrier”

    In this episode Angie talks to Abby Bayford, Director of Institute at the Academy Transformation Trust, a national multi-academy trust, about discovering that difference can be talked about, and should be shared by the people who experience it.

    Abby has been a qualified teacher for 14 years, working in and supporting a range of schools in the Midlands. Abby now leads on people development across all directorates for all employees at Academy Transformation Trust. Abby has been invited to share this work at national events; she has also written for national publications on CPD design principles.

    Find out more about Abby www.academytransformationtrust.co.uk/our-team/abby-bayford

    Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.uk

    A full transcript of this episode can be found at www.being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-abby-bayford

    This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. 
    Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media

    49 min
  • Loving the complexity

    Is following a framework enough when it comes to diversity, equity, inclusion work? What motivates us to do the work?

    In this solo episode of Being Luminary, Angie looks at why it is important to explore the culture and practice of your organization as part of DEI work, and why one size may not fit all.

    Find out more about the Luminary Leadership of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Programme  visit www.angelabrowne.co.uk/luminary-leadership-dei

    Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.uk

    A full transcript of this episode can be found at www.being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/loving-the-complexity

    This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

    22 min
  • In conversation with Claire Stewart-Hall

    “I got comfortable with challenge, challenging spaces, challenging people, challenging, being the question asker, being the disrupter, I guess, because that's how my family viewed me. The coming out was disruptive.” 

    In this episode Angie talks to Claire Stewart-Hall founder of Equitable Coaching. Claire served as a leader in schools in the UK for twenty years in urban areas of economic disadvantage and poverty and has experience of supporting creativity, positivity and self-organising systems to enable positive cultures to grow.

    They talk about Claire’s childhood growing up with a Protestant father and an Irish Catholic mother in 1980s England, coming  out as a lesbian, and her role as a coach helping organisations to understand their racial biases. Claire and Angie explore the idea of the coach as doula for new ideas and strategies, and how to navigate equitable change through uncomfortable emotions.

    Find out more about Claire on her website - www.equitablecoaching.com

    Follow here on Twitter @clairerising and @equitablecoach1

    Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.uk

    A full transcript of this episode can be found at www.being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-claire-stewart-hall

    This podcast was presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and 

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    51 min
  • In conversation with Dave Baker

    “I suppose I want to move beyond the point of staff, being nervous and feeling they can't say stuff because they're frightened, they're not going to say the right stuff, we got to get beyond that and just start to be honest about where, where we're uncomfortable, and start to confront the uncomfortable so that we can move into a different place.” 

    In this episode Angie talks to Dave Baker, CEO of the Olympus Academy Trust, a family of 9 schools working together within a multi-academy trust to provide the best possible educational experience and outcomes for young people in the Bristol area. 


    They discuss the influence of Dave’s childhood in a busy vicarage on his leadership style, and his approach to addressing diversity, equity and inclusion within his organization. Dave highlights the particular challenges that the geography and population that his Trust serves creates, and how he deals with those challenges in the glare of social and broadcast media.

    Find out more about Olympus Academy Trust here - www.olympustrust.co.uk/

    Representation Matters can be found at www.repmatters.co.uk/

    Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.uk

    A full transcript of this episode can be found at www.being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-dave-baker

    This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

    42 min
  • In conversation with Bennie Kara

    “I think luminary work … is a process of truth gathering, and acknowledging that there are truths that you might not be comfortable with. So you know, the questions you ask of yourself, as a teacher, for example - what are the truths of our workplace? What are the truths for the adults and what truths for the children and recognising the truth for someone else, might be completely different from your own truth.”

    In this episode Angie talks to Bennie Kara about her work in diversity. Bennie shares her experience of feeling like an outsider to both her home and school cultures, and her early rejection of her heritage. She shares candidly about the devastation she felt when she didn’t fit in during her teacher training, and how her experiences have influenced her work in bringing people to the table.

    Bennie Kara is a deputy headteacher in the East Midlands, specialising in curriculum, teaching and learning. She started her career in the inaugural cohort of Teach First in 2003, teaching English in East London. Since then, she has taught in four London boroughs and in South Oxfordshire, before returning to Derby.

    Bennie speaks, writes and trains on diversity in the curriculum. Alongside supporting schools to diversify their curriculum, she is the author of 'A Little Guide for Teachers: Diversity in Schools' (Sage Education). She has written on the subject of diversity for publications such as Schools Week and the Chartered College of Teaching's Education Exchange. She is a supporter of the grassroots online movements such as @WomenEd, @BAMEednetwork and @LGBTedUK, and has featured as a keynote speaker for @DiverseEd2020 and the Team English National Conference. Bennie is also on the executive team of @SLTchat.

    Find Bennie at www.diverseeducators.co.uk

    Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.uk

    A full transcript of this episode can be found at www.being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-bennie-kara

    This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media

     

    45 min
  • In conversation with Andy Buck

    “I think our beliefs about the world, yes, are are formed by the very big messages that we get. But I actually believe that they're even more informed and I don't know what the evidence is for this, this is just my view, but are even more formed by all the little things that happen to you on a day to day basis.” 

    In this episode Angie talks to Andy Buck about his teaching career, his regret at not being ‘out’ to the pupils in his care, and his work to build a legacy in coaching.

    A geography teacher by trade, Andy went on to become a headteacher for thirteen years at two schools in east London. In the last year of headship, his school was judged outstanding in all categories and Andy was designated a National Leader of Education. In 2009 he become a Director at the National College for School Leadership, leading on the London Challenge programme. He was subsequently responsible for setting up the government's flagship Teaching Schools programme before being appointed as Managing Director at United Learning, one of the country’s largest academy groups.

    Since 2014, Andy has founded Leadership Matters which aims to improve the educational outcomes for pupils by supporting great leadership development.  Leadership Matters is a web-based membership organisation that offers school leaders access to high quality online development tools and other leadership articles, videos and blogs. 
     

    A full transcript of this episode can be found at www.being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-andy-buck

    Find out more about Andy at www.andybuck.org.uk
    Follow Andy on Twitter @andy__buck

    Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.uk

    This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

    44 min
  • The Problem With Psychological Safety

    How do we create psychological safety for people who hold marginalised and intersectional identities? How do we support people who hold these identities in bringing their voices into the organisation that we're working in creatively, in ways that will actually help our organisations develop, in ways that will actually help our organisations become luminary? 

    Find out more about the Luminary Leadership of Diversity Equity and Inclusion Programme www.angelabrowne.co.uk/luminary-leadership-dei

    Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.uk

    A full transcript of this episode can be found at being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/the-problem-with-psychological-safety

    This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

    27 min
  • The Myth Of Thick Skin

    Trigger warning - this podcast contains depictions of both physical and emotional torture and pain. Listener discretion is advised.

     

    Somebody asked me recently, what I thought might be different about my life, had I been born in a different skin in less brown skin? And my immediate response was, how could I possibly know? We none of us really know, do we, what the other person experiences. But the thought of not experiencing this life, as someone with brown skin has never really occurred to me, has never really been something that I have tried to inhabit. It would never be something that I could ever walk through, you know, what would a day be like? What would a week be like? I have no idea. What I did think, though, was that there have been some peak experiences. And by peak, I mean bad peak, not good peak. There have been some peak experiences that have really, as the kids say, grind my gears. And one of those is the felt sense that somehow I could cope with things more easily than my peers. And perhaps that I could withstand more emotional pain than my peers, or at least that there was somehow societally an expectation that I could… 

     

    Read Linda Villarosa’s article  - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/racial-differences-doctors.html

    Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.uk

     

    A full transcript of this episode is available at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/the-myth-of-thick-skin

    This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

    25 min
  • In conversation with Alison Peacock

    “I started talking about an alternative improvement agenda that wasn't based on blaming people, wasn't based on labelling children, it wasn't based on tracking performance. It was essentially based on on openness and questioning and inventiveness and so on, that was all about a highly inclusive way of thinking about teaching and learning.”

    In this episode Angie talks to Dame Alison Peacock, Chief Executive of the Chartered College of Teaching and originator of Learning Without Limits about her motivation, her career and the future of the Chartered College of Teaching. They discuss how to ensure that our disadvantaged, minoritised, or underachieving children are not overlooked in our school, what drives those teachers who are brave enough to try to make a difference, and how can we change the culture of education for the better.

    https://chartered.college/

    Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.uk

     

    A full transcript of this episode can be viewed at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-alison-peacock

    This podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

    51 min

About Nothing Without Us

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No one who holds a minoritized identity wants people who don't who hold those identities to be the ones solely making decisions about how organisations and how society changes, how it's run and…