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When a mother in a New Jersey hospital looked down and realized the baby in her arms wasn’t hers, veteran mother–baby nurse Joyce Fisher did what every good nurse is trained to do — she acted fast. But instead of being praised for preventing further harm, Joyce was fired and reported to the Board of Nursing.
In this powerful episode of Nurse Converse, host Jana Price sits down with Joyce and her attorney, Matthew A. Luber, to unpack how a system meant to protect patients turned against the very nurse who upheld it. Together, they explore what happened during the baby mix-up, the emotional toll on everyone involved, and the broader implications for nurses who speak up about safety concerns.
This is more than one nurse’s story — it’s a wake-up call for the entire healthcare profession about accountability, retaliation, and the urgent need for true “Just Culture.”
>>Nurse Breaks Silence After Being Fired for Reporting Hospital’s Baby Mix-Up | Opinion
Jump Ahead to Listen:
[00:03:40] Case Overview
[00:04:30] Joyce’s Nursing Background
[00:06:35] Start of Shift & Report
[00:09:30] “This is not my baby.”
[00:11:10] Escalation & Protocols
[00:13:20] Emotional Fallout
[00:17:30] Leadership Involvement and Reporting the Event
[00:18:20] Suspension and Internal Investigation
[00:23:10] Fired for “Gross Negligence”
[00:24:20] Setting Precedent
[00:26:10] Missing Root-Cause Analysis
[00:28:10] Virtua "Just Culture" Statement
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When a mother in a New Jersey hospital looked down and realized the baby in her arms wasn’t hers, veteran mother–baby nurse Joyce Fisher did what every good nurse is trained to do — she acted fast. But instead of being praised for preventing further harm, Joyce was fired and reported to the Board of Nursing.
In this powerful episode of Nurse Converse, host Jana Price sits down with Joyce and her attorney, Matthew A. Luber, to unpack how a system meant to protect patients turned against the very nurse who upheld it. Together, they explore what happened during the baby mix-up, the emotional toll on everyone involved, and the broader implications for nurses who speak up about safety concerns.
This is more than one nurse’s story — it’s a wake-up call for the entire healthcare profession about accountability, retaliation, and the urgent need for true “Just Culture.”
>>Nurse Breaks Silence After Being Fired for Reporting Hospital’s Baby Mix-Up | Opinion
Jump Ahead to Listen:
[00:03:40] Case Overview
[00:04:30] Joyce’s Nursing Background
[00:06:35] Start of Shift & Report
[00:09:30] “This is not my baby.”
[00:11:10] Escalation & Protocols
[00:13:20] Emotional Fallout
[00:17:30] Leadership Involvement and Reporting the Event
[00:18:20] Suspension and Internal Investigation
[00:23:10] Fired for “Gross Negligence”
[00:24:20] Setting Precedent
[00:26:10] Missing Root-Cause Analysis
[00:28:10] Virtua "Just Culture" Statement
Connect with Jana on LinkedIn
For more information, full transcript and videos visit Nurse.org/podcast
Join our newsletter at nurse.org/join
Instagram: @nurse_org
TikTok: @nurse.org
Facebook: @nurse.org
YouTube: Nurse.org

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