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What if everything you've been told about the gap between D1 and D3 volleyball is missing the bigger picture?
In this episode, Susan sits down with Ben and Nancy Somera, a married coaching duo leading programs at two different division levels. Ben is the head coach at Wesleyan University (Division III), and Nancy is the head coach at Fairfield University (Division I). Together, they offer a rare side-by-side look at what coaching, recruiting, and competing actually look like at each level.
Ben and Nancy break down the real differences (and surprising similarities) between D1 and D3 volleyball, from season length and summer commitments to practice intensity, major restrictions, and the perceived talent gap between divisions. They also share how they build winning cultures without burning their athletes out, where their recruiting actually overlaps, and why finding a coach who supports your full college experience may matter more than the division letter on the jersey.
If you've ever assumed D1 and D3 are worlds apart, this episode will give you a more honest, behind-the-scenes look at how recruiting really works.
About the Guests:
Ben and Nancy Somera bring a unique perspective to the college volleyball world, having coached together at the Division I level before now leading successful programs at different divisions in Connecticut. Nancy is the head coach at Fairfield University, where she has quickly built one of the top mid-major programs in the country with multiple MAAC Championships and NCAA Tournament appearances. Ben is the head coach at Wesleyan University, where he has turned the Cardinals into a national Division III contender with multiple NESCAC titles and consistent NCAA Tournament success. Together, the Someras have decades of coaching experience across Division I and Division III volleyball and are widely respected for their ability to build winning cultures, develop athletes, and navigate the evolving recruiting landscape. Their perspective on talent overlap between divisions, recruiting, and what truly creates a great college experience makes for an insightful and timely conversation for athletes and families alike.
Chapters
00:00 – Meeting Ben & Nancy
03:30 – Daily life as D1 vs. D3 head coaches
08:00 – Time commitment and season length
13:00 – Internships, summers, and balance
18:00 – Why burned-out athletes don't perform
24:00 – The athletes who thrive in both gyms
29:00 – Where D1 and D3 recruiting overlaps
33:30 – Strength, conditioning, and the fifth-year shift
37:00 – Choosing nursing, pre-med, and other rigorous majors
44:00 – Building a winning culture
Connect with Ben and Nancy:
Instagram: Wesleyan University Volleyball
Website: Wesleyan University Volleyball
Instagram: Fairfield Volleyball
Website: Fairfield Volleyball
Connect with Susan:
Check out the website: www.nxtvb.com
Follow on Instagram + TikTok: @hey.susank
www.rallysend.com
Looking for a better way to stay organized and manage your recruiting? Check out www.rallysend.com—our go-to recruiting software for athletes, families, and clubs. It streamlines communication with college coaches, saves hours on recruiting outreach, and helps you stay ahead of the biggest challenge in the recruiting process: time.
Use code HEYSUSAN to save $5/month on a monthly subscription or $50 off an annual plan.
What if the “best” recruiting path isn’t the one everyone else is chasing?
In this episode, Susan sits down with professional volleyball player Kenzie Foley to talk about her journey from Division II volleyball to playing professionally overseas in Germany.
Kenzie shares why she chose the Division II route over lower-level Division I opportunities, how she found the right fit during recruiting, and why focusing on growth and development mattered more to her than labels. They also discuss misconceptions around the different college divisions, balancing academics and athletics, and the importance of choosing a path that aligns with your goals.
Kenzie also opens up about transitioning to the professional level, adapting to the overseas game, and the mindset that helped her continue proving herself at every stage of her career.
If you’ve ever questioned whether there’s only one “right” path in recruiting, this episode is a reminder that success can look a lot of different ways.
About the Guest:
Kenzie Foley is a professional volleyball player whose journey has been anything but linear. What once felt like rejection became redirection when her indoor collegiate volleyball career at St. Cloud State University ended sooner than expected. Instead of walking away from the sport, Kenzie took a leap of faith into beach volleyball at the University of Central Arkansas, a decision that unexpectedly led her back to the indoor game and ultimately to the start of her professional career in Germany’s Bundesliga. Through every setback, injury, and change of plans, Kenzie has learned that difficult moments often lead to the opportunities we are meant for all along. Her story is a reminder that success doesn’t always happen the way we imagine, but sometimes unfolds even better.
Chapters
00:00 – Kenzie’s volleyball journey
03:30 – Why she chose Division II
06:00 – Getting overlooked in recruiting
08:00 – Her path to playing professionally
10:00 – Confidence and proving yourself
13:00 – Her recruiting experience
16:00 – What makes Division II unique
20:00 – Academics, facilities, and balance
23:30 – Earning two college degrees
29:00 – Transitioning to pro volleyball
32:00 – Differences at the pro level
36:00 – Life playing overseas
41:00 – Finding the right fit
47:00 – Final advice for athletes
Connect with Kenzie:
Instagram: @kenziefoley08
Tik Tok: @kenziefoley08
Connect with Susan:
Check out the website: www.nxtvb.com
Follow on Instagram + TikTok: @hey.susank
www.rallysend.com
Looking for a better way to stay organized and manage your recruiting? Check out www.rallysend.com—our go-to recruiting software for athletes, families, and clubs. It streamlines communication with college coaches, saves hours on recruiting outreach, and helps you stay ahead of the biggest challenge in the recruiting process: time.
Use code HEYSUSAN to save $5/month on a monthly subscription or $50 off an annual plan.
What could happen to volleyball recruiting if college athletes are given five full years of eligibility?
In this episode, Susan breaks down the NCAA’s proposed “5 years to play 5” rule and shares seven major ripple effects she believes could reshape the future of volleyball recruiting.
From fewer roster spots at top programs to the growing importance of Division III and junior college opportunities, Susan walks through how the recruiting landscape could become more competitive and more strategic for families navigating the process.
She also explains how roster limits, the transfer portal, international recruiting, and the rise of older, more experienced college athletes may impact recruiting timelines and opportunities for future classes.
This episode is not meant to create fear or panic, but instead help families think ahead, better understand the bigger picture, and make more informed recruiting decisions moving forward.
Chapters
00:00 – Understanding the proposed 5-year rule
01:45 – Fewer roster spots at top programs
08:15 – The talent trickle-down effect
11:30 – Why high academic D3s may benefit
19:30 – The growing value of junior college
23:00 – A higher level of college volleyball
26:30 – How the transfer portal may evolve
28:30 – The future of the student-athlete model
32:30 – International recruiting implications
34:30 – Final thoughts on the future of recruiting
Connect with Susan:
Check out the website: www.nxtvb.com
Follow on Instagram + TikTok: @hey.susank
www.rallysend.com
Looking for a better way to stay organized and manage your recruiting? Check out www.rallysend.com—our go-to recruiting software for athletes, families, and clubs. It streamlines communication with college coaches, saves hours on recruiting outreach, and helps you stay ahead of the biggest challenge in the recruiting process: time.
Use code HEYSUSAN to save $5/month on a monthly subscription or $50 off an annual plan.
June 15th is a major milestone in volleyball recruiting, but most athletes spend years preparing physically without ever learning how to confidently handle conversations with college coaches.
In this bonus episode, Susan gives families a behind-the-scenes look inside her June 15th Prep Club, a guided experience designed to help athletes feel calm, prepared, and confident going into recruiting conversations.
You’ll hear part of a private Prep Club podcast episode featuring certified life coach Desi McPhail and former Division I athlete Jesse Borkin. Together, they break down why telling your story matters, how athletes can speak confidently about themselves without feeling awkward, and what coaches are actually looking for during recruiting calls.
They also discuss common first-call questions, how to prepare thoughtful responses, and why confidence and self-awareness can help athletes stand out in the recruiting process.
If your athlete is part of the class of 2028 and preparing for June 15th, this episode will help you better understand how to approach the process with more clarity and confidence.
ENROLL IN THE JUNE 15th PREP CLUB HERE
Chapters
00:00 – Why June 15th feels so important
01:15 – What the Prep Club is designed to do
02:30 – Why telling your story matters
04:30 – Meet Jesse and Desi
07:00 – What coaches notice during recruiting calls
08:45 – The idea behind an elevator pitch
10:00 – Common first-call questions
12:00 – How to answer confidently
14:00 – Giving coaches insight into who you are
15:45 – Confidence vs. sounding cocky
17:15 – Final thoughts on the Prep Club
Connect with Susan:
Check out the website: www.nxtvb.com
Follow on Instagram + TikTok: @hey.susank
www.rallysend.com
Looking for a better way to stay organized and manage your recruiting? Check out www.rallysend.com—our go-to recruiting software for athletes, families, and clubs. It streamlines communication with college coaches, saves hours on recruiting outreach, and helps you stay ahead of the biggest challenge in the recruiting process: time.
Use code HEYSUSAN to save $5/month on a monthly subscription or $50 off an annual plan.
What does recruiting actually look like from the moment a coach sees your name to a final decision?
In Part 2, Susan continues her conversation with Chad Koenegstein and Andrew Brown, breaking down how the Division III recruiting process works behind the scenes. They walk through the recruiting funnel, from crowded inboxes to narrowing down a class, and explain how coaches evaluate athletes, the role of visits, and why timing matters.
You’ll also hear what athletes are doing well, what makes coaches’ jobs harder, and how being proactive with camps can help you stand out.
Chad Koenegstein is the head coach at UC Santa Cruz and a former Colorado College assistant who helped lead three NCAA Tournament teams and coached eight All-Americans.
Andrew Brown is the head coach at NYU, where he has built one of the top Division III programs with multiple NCAA Tournament runs and back-to-back Final Four appearances.
Chapters
00:00 – Where recruiting starts: the inbox
01:00 – How many athletes coaches evaluate
03:00 – Narrowing down the recruiting funnel
05:00 – What makes athletes stand out
07:00 – The role of film, camps, and communication
09:00 – Why transparency matters in recruiting
10:30 – What athletes are doing right
12:00 – The role of parents in the process
14:00 – How to approach camps strategically
16:00 – Why camp experience matters
18:00 – Evaluating talent across divisions
20:00 – The overlap between D1, D2, and D3
23:00 – What coaches look for in the right fit
Book Mentioned: Kids These Days: Effective Strategies for Coaching Gen Z and Beyond
Connect with Andrew:
Website: https://gonyuathletics.com/sports/womens-volleyball
Instagram: @nyuwomensvolley
Connect with Chad
Website: https://goslugs.com/sports/womens-volleyball
Instagram: @ucsc_wvb
Connect with Susan:
Check out the website: www.nxtvb.com
Follow on Instagram + TikTok: @hey.susank
www.rallysend.com
Looking for a better way to stay organized and manage your recruiting? Check out www.rallysend.com—our go-to recruiting software for athletes, families, and clubs. It streamlines communication with college coaches, saves hours on recruiting outreach, and helps you stay ahead of the biggest challenge in the recruiting process: time.
Use code HEYSUSAN to save $5/month on a monthly subscription or $50 off an annual plan.
What does the recruiting process actually look like from a Division III coach’s perspective?
In Part 1 of this conversation, Susan sits down with Chad Koenegstein, Head Coach (UC Santa Cruz), and Andrew Brown, Head Coach (NYU), to talk about their journeys into coaching and what makes the Division III experience unique. They share how recruiting has evolved, including the impact of technology and increased access to information. You’ll hear why recruiting feels more overwhelming than ever for both athletes and coaches, and how today’s process requires more ownership from athletes.
Chad and Andrew also give insight into the collaborative nature of Division III recruiting, how coaches support each other behind the scenes, and why relationships matter. If you’re trying to better understand recruiting and navigate it with more clarity, this episode will give you a strong foundation.
Chapters
00:00 – Meet Chad and Andrew
03:00 – Coaching backgrounds and career paths
07:00 – Why relationships and reputation matter in recruiting
09:30 – How recruiting has changed over time
12:00 – The role of technology in recruiting
15:30 – Why Division III is more collaborative
18:00 – How coaches support each other behind the scenes
22:00 – Why recruiting feels more overwhelming than ever
25:00 – The importance of ownership in the recruiting process
27:30 – Why athletes need to be proactive
30:00 – Using technology and AI in recruiting
Connect with Andrew:
Website: https://gonyuathletics.com/sports/womens-volleyball
Instagram: @nyuwomensvolley
Connect with Chad
Website: https://goslugs.com/sports/womens-volleyball
Instagram: @ucsc_wvb
Connect with Susan:
Check out the website: www.nxtvb.com
Follow on Instagram + TikTok: @hey.susank
www.rallysend.com
Looking for a better way to stay organized and manage your recruiting? Check out www.rallysend.com—our go-to recruiting software for athletes, families, and clubs. It streamlines communication with college coaches, saves hours on recruiting outreach, and helps you stay ahead of the biggest challenge in the recruiting process: time.
Use code HEYSUSAN to save $5/month on a monthly subscription or $50 off an annual plan.
If you’ve been trying to approach recruiting like a step-by-step checklist, this episode will challenge the way you think about the process.
In this episode, Susan shares a powerful analogy that reframes recruiting as a road trip instead of a fixed plan. Athletes and families often want the exact steps and a guaranteed path, but in reality, recruiting is about direction, not perfection.
Susan breaks down why trying to map out every step can actually create more stress and confusion, and how focusing on the next move builds momentum and clarity over time. She also explains the role of a “copilot” in the recruiting process, and how the right guidance can make the journey smoother without taking away ownership from the athlete.
For parents, this episode offers a helpful shift in perspective on how to best support your athlete without becoming the backseat driver, and why your role matters more than you think.
If you’re feeling overwhelmed or stuck in the recruiting process, this episode will help you simplify your approach, build momentum, and keep moving forward.
Chapters
00:00 – Intro
00:45 – Recruiting isn’t a step-by-step process
01:45 – Why planning everything creates stress
02:30 – Direction over perfection
03:45 – Focus on the next step
04:15 – The role of a recruiting guide
05:45 – Action creates clarity
07:00 – What this means for athletes
08:00 – What this means for parents
09:30 – Why outside support helps
11:00 – Parents as the fuel, not the driver
12:30 – What actually helps families most
13:30 – Final takeaway: keep moving
Connect with Susan:
Check out the website: www.nxtvb.com
Follow on Instagram + TikTok: @hey.susank
www.rallysend.com
Looking for a better way to stay organized and manage your recruiting? Check out www.rallysend.com—our go-to recruiting software for athletes, families, and clubs. It streamlines communication with college coaches, saves hours on recruiting outreach, and helps you stay ahead of the biggest challenge in the recruiting process: time.
Use code HEYSUSAN to save $5/month on a monthly subscription or $50 off an annual plan.
What if waiting in the recruiting process could actually create more opportunities?
In Part 2 of this conversation, Susan continues her discussion with Keegan Cook, head coach at the University of Minnesota, to break down how timing impacts recruiting opportunities for the class of 2028 and rising prospects.
Keegan explains why recruiting can feel inconsistent and how factors like the transfer portal, international athletes, and roster needs influence when opportunities open up. He shares why uncommitted athletes can become more valuable later in the process and why waiting may actually work in your favor.
They also discuss how scholarship structures have evolved, why programs hold spots for the right player, and what happens after an offer is extended. If you’re feeling pressure to commit early, this episode will help you approach decisions with more clarity and confidence.
Guest: Keegan Cook
Keegan Cook is the head coach of the University of Minnesota volleyball program and one of the most respected voices in the college game when it comes to recruiting and player development. Since taking over in 2022, he’s led the Gophers to three straight NCAA Tournament appearances, including a Sweet 16 run, while earning AVCA Region Coach of the Year honors.
Prior to Minnesota, Cook built a powerhouse at the University of Washington with multiple Pac-12 titles, a Final Four appearance, and consistent national success. With experience across club, mid-major, and Power 5 levels, as well as involvement with USA Volleyball, he brings a well-rounded perspective on how the recruiting process works and how it’s evolving for today’s athletes and families.
Chapters
00:00 – Why timing matters in recruiting
01:00 – When uncommitted athletes gain value
03:00 – The “hot and cold” recruiting cycle
05:00 – Transfer portal and shifting opportunities
07:30 – Why waiting can open more doors
10:00 – Scholarship trends and roster strategy
12:30 – Rethinking the scarcity mindset
15:00 – Changes in scholarship structure
17:00 – The value of academics in recruiting
18:30 – What happens after an offer
21:00 – Communication after an offer
23:00 – Making decisions with clarity
24:30 – The myth of the perfect fit
26:00 – Final advice and future outlook
Connect with Keegan:
Instagram: @gophervb
Connect with Susan:
Check out the website: www.nxtvb.com
Follow on Instagram + TikTok: @hey.susank
www.rallysend.com
Looking for a better way to stay organized and manage your recruiting? Check out www.rallysend.com—our go-to recruiting software for athletes, families, and clubs. It streamlines communication with college coaches, saves hours on recruiting outreach, and helps you stay ahead of the biggest challenge in the recruiting process: time.
Use code HEYSUSAN to save $5/month on a monthly subscription or $50 off an annual plan.
If you’ve ever felt like the recruiting process suddenly speeds up and everything happens at once, this episode will help you understand why.
In Part 1 of this conversation, Susan sits down with Keegan Cook, head coach at the University of Minnesota, to talk through how the current recruiting timeline actually works and what’s changed over the years. They break down the June 15th rule, why communication is so limited before that date, and why everything can feel so overwhelming once it opens up.
Keegan shares what recruiting looked like before these rule changes, how the process has evolved, and what college coaches are navigating behind the scenes. You’ll also learn why camps have become such a big part of recruiting and how families can better understand what’s happening during this phase.
If you’re trying to make sense of June 15th and the overall recruiting timeline, this episode will give you important context and clarity.
Guest: Keegan Cook
Keegan Cook is the head coach of the University of Minnesota volleyball program and one of the most respected voices in the college game when it comes to recruiting and player development. Since taking over in 2022, he’s led the Gophers to three straight NCAA Tournament appearances, including a Sweet 16 run, while earning AVCA Region Coach of the Year honors.
Prior to Minnesota, Cook built a powerhouse at the University of Washington with multiple Pac-12 titles, a Final Four appearance, and consistent national success. With experience across club, mid-major, and Power 5 levels, as well as involvement with USA Volleyball, he brings a well-rounded perspective on how the recruiting process works and how it’s evolving for today’s athletes and families.
Chapters
00:00 – Intro and why recruiting feels overwhelming right now
01:30 – Meet Keegan Cook and his perspective on recruiting
04:00 – The biggest issue: limited communication before June 15th
08:30 – How recruiting used to work vs. now
12:30 – Why June 15th changed everything
16:00 – The “floodgates” effect and rising pressure on athletes
19:00 – Why camps have become such a big part of recruiting
22:00 – The gap between June 15th and official visits
24:00 – How families are trying to read interest without communication
26:00 – Why recruiting feels rushed and exhausting
Connect with Keegan:
Instagram: @gophervb
Connect with Susan:
Check out the website: www.nxtvb.com
Follow on Instagram + TikTok: @hey.susank
www.rallysend.com
Looking for a better way to stay organized and manage your recruiting? Check out www.rallysend.com—our go-to recruiting software for athletes, families, and clubs. It streamlines communication with college coaches, saves hours on recruiting outreach, and helps you stay ahead of the biggest challenge in the recruiting process: time.
Use code HEYSUSAN to save $5/month on a monthly subscription or $50 off an annual plan.
What does it actually mean when you see an “evaluation” on your University Athlete profile?
In Part 2 of Susan’s conversation with Corie Murphy from University Athlete, they break down one of the most misunderstood parts of the platform: coach evaluations. Athletes often assume an evaluation means strong recruiting interest, but the reality is more nuanced. Corie explains how college coaches use tags, ratings, notes, and internal evaluations to organize their recruiting process.
Susan and Corie also discuss what athletes should actually pay attention to on their profile, how coaches track prospects over time, and why consistent engagement matters more than a single data point. If you’ve ever wondered what those numbers and notifications really mean, this episode will give you a clearer picture of how coaches use University Athlete in recruiting.
Guest: Corie Murphy
Corie Murphy is the Director of Operations at University Athlete (UA), a platform used by college coaches across the country to organize and evaluate athletes in the recruiting process. A former collegiate volleyball player at Eastern Washington and assistant coach at the University of Idaho, Corie has spent more than two decades working at the intersection of technology and college athletics. Through her work with University Athlete, she helps develop tools that allow college coaches to track prospects, manage evaluations, and recruit more efficiently throughout the year.
Chapters
00:00 – What a University Athlete “evaluation” actually is
01:00 – The different tools coaches use to evaluate players
02:00 – How recruiting tags work behind the scenes
03:00 – Ratings, notes, and internal evaluations
04:30 – Why athletes see evaluation activity
06:00 – Can coaches see each other’s notes?
07:00 – Why an evaluation doesn’t always mean recruiting interest
08:30 – What patterns athletes should actually look for
10:00 – What makes a helpful athlete profile
11:30 – The importance of accurate contact information
13:00 – New AI matching features coming to UA
15:00 – How clubs may use UA in the future
20:00 – Do Power 4 coaches use UA?
22:00 – What to do if a coach says no
24:30 – The one thing every athlete should do on their UA profile
Connect with Corie:
Website: www.universityathlete.com
Instagram: @universityathlete
Connect with Susan:
Check out the website: www.nxtvb.com
Follow on Instagram + TikTok: @hey.susank
www.rallysend.com
Looking for a better way to stay organized and manage your recruiting? Check out www.rallysend.com—our go-to recruiting software for athletes, families, and clubs. It streamlines communication with college coaches, saves hours on recruiting outreach, and helps you stay ahead of the biggest challenge in the recruiting process: time.
Use code HEYSUSAN to save $5/month on a monthly subscription or $50 off an annual plan.
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