Old Paths Podcast

Old Paths Podcast

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Old Paths Podcast episodes

  • American Mantle Review (May 2026)

    Summary

    This episode features a comprehensive review of American Mantle's recent articles, discussions on political strategy, race, and church reform, and insights into Christian activism and natural law. Cody Justice and Michael Spangler explore the importance of truth, natural affection, and courageous leadership in shaping a godly society.

    Key Topics

    • American Mantle's mission to cultivate a new American revolution
    • The importance of racial questions in political success
    • The strategy of infiltration in politics and its pitfalls
    • The significance of natural affection for race and nation
    • The necessity of church reform and ministerial integrity
    • The concept of polypolitics and multi-dimensional analysis of loyalty
    • The importance of preaching, visitation, and active ministry in spiritual revival
    • The biblical precedent for forming new institutions during crisis
    • The dangers of soft leadership and the need for courageous, honest ministers
    • The spiritual and political importance of confessing sins and reforming institutions

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to American Mantle and Its Mission

    03:12 Celebrating One Year of American Mantle

    05:48 Overview of Recent Articles and Themes

    09:13 The Right Indictment: Sam Francis and Racial Politics

    12:08 The Importance of the Racial Question in Politics

    14:56 The Role of Infiltration in Political Strategy

    17:49 The Dangers of Seeking Approval from the Left

    21:03 The Flaws of Conservative Politics

    23:45 Creating New Elites Outside the Establishment

    26:50 The Need for Courage and Authentic Leadership

    29:59 Conclusion and Future Aspirations

    41:32 Confession and Accountability in Ministry

    46:10 The Need for Reform in the Church

    50:21 Institutional Integrity and the Role of Truth

    56:15 The Challenge of Speaking Truth to Power

    01:01:40 The Urgency of Preaching in a Time of Famine

    01:12:10 Understanding Polypolitics: Beyond Left and Right

    1 hr 21 min
  • Race Realism and the Sons of Noah (w/ Samuel Ketcham)

    Summary

    This episode explores Genesis 9 and the biblical basis for the reality of race, focusing on Noah's prophecy about his sons Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Michael, Cody, and returning guest, Samuel Ketcham, discuss the historical fulfillment of the curse on Canaan, the spiritual blessings on Shem, and the expansion of Japheth, emphasizing the importance of race in biblical theology and contemporary applications.


    Key Topics

    • Genesis 9 and the sons of Noah
    • Ham's sin and the curse on Canaan
    • Blessings on Shem and the spiritual lineage
    • Japheth's enlargement and global expansion
    • Historical fulfillment of the curse and blessings
    • Applications to race, nationalism, and Christian responsibility


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Race Realism and Scripture

    01:47 Exploring Genesis 9: The Sons of Noah

    04:14 Understanding Ham's Sin

    12:29 The Curse of Canaan

    17:23 Why Canaan and Not Ham?

    24:41 Historical Fulfillment of the Curse

    39:47 The Blessing of Shem

    45:00 The Blessing of Japheth

    45:16 Understanding Japheth's Blessing

    52:32 Historical Fulfillment of Japheth's Blessing

    57:31 The Role of Japheth in Christendom

    01:01:43 Applications of Japheth's Blessing

    01:10:00 Controversies and Misunderstandings

    01:19:33 Future Hopes and Responsibilities


    Resources

    Genesis 9 KJV

    John Brown's Commentary on Genesis 9

    Samuel Ketcham's Ministry and Substack

    Christian Race Realism Book by Michael Spangler

    1 hr 34 min
  • Family Worship

    Summary

    This episode explores the vital practice of family worship, emphasizing its biblical foundation, practical application, and spiritual benefits. Michael and Cody share personal experiences, address common objections, and provide guidance on implementing regular family devotions to strengthen faith and family bonds.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Overview of Family Worship

    08:25 Defining Family Worship: Elements and Experiences

    17:33 Personal Experiences with Family Worship

    23:24 Reasons for Family Worship: Duty and Privilege

    29:09 The Benefits of Family Worship for Obedience and Church Preparation

    43:23 Long-term Impact: Modeling Family Worship for Future Generations

    43:53 The Importance of Family Worship

    50:30 Essential Elements of Family Worship

    56:38 Reading Scripture in Family Worship

    01:00:41 The Role of Prayer

    01:01:10 The Significance of Singing

    01:06:16 Addressing Objections to Family Worship

    01:20:23 Final Thoughts on Family Worship


    Resources

    The Psalms of David and Meter

    1650 Psalter App

    Family Worship Bible Guide by Joel Beeke

    1 hr 26 min
  • Report on Reformed Christian Politics

    SUMMARY

    In this episode of the Old Paths podcast, Michael Spangler and Cody Justice delve into the report on Reformed Christian Politics (written by Stephen Wolfe, Zachary Garris, and Sean McGowan), discussing its implications for modern political thought within the Reformed tradition. They explore the cultural influences that have shaped contemporary Reformed theology, critique the modern two kingdoms theology, and emphasize the need for systematic political thinking that aligns with the principles of the Reformed faith. The conversation highlights the importance of the church's role in politics, the necessity of promoting true religion, and the moral obligations of civil authorities. Throughout the discussion, they advocate for a more robust engagement with political issues, urging listeners to consider the historical context and theological foundations of their political beliefs.

    HIGHLIGHTS

    • Reformed political thought has been influenced by modern liberalism.
    • The two kingdoms theology has been misapplied in contemporary politics.
    • Christian political engagement should be rooted in Reformed principles.
    • Grace does not abrogate nature; both are essential in theology.
    • The church's mission is spiritual but must also engage with political realities.
    • Political reasoning is a discovery process that requires moral action.
    • Not all morally permissible actions are prudent in practice; yet prudence must not be an excuse for cowardice or indifference.
    • The promotion of true religion is a duty of civil government.
    • The church should not shy away from political involvement.
    • A systematic approach to political thought is necessary for Reformed Christians.

    CHAPTERS

    Chapters


    00:00 Introduction to Reformed Christian Politics

    03:06 Cultural Influences on Reformed Theology

    06:00 The Challenge of Modern Political Thought

    09:01 The Role of Two Kingdoms Theology

    12:06 Deficiencies in Current Political Thinking

    14:49 The Relationship Between Politics and Missiology

    18:07 The Need for Systematic Political Methodology

    20:54 Critique of Modern Conservative Politics

    23:51 The Principle of Promoting True Religion

    26:55 Prudence in Political Action

    30:05 The Intersection of Faith and Politics

    33:00 Conclusion and Call to Action

    44:37 Exploring Historical Contexts and Authority Limits

    48:04 The Role of Civil Authority in Promoting Religion

    52:04 The Complexity of Blasphemy and Civil Action

    55:57 Inevitability of Religious Establishment

    01:00:25 Prudence and Moral Action in Governance

    01:03:02 Rhetoric and the Promotion of True Religion

    01:11:05 Understanding the Relationship Between Principle and Practice

    1 hr 28 min
  • American Mantle Review (February 2026)

    SUMMARY

    In this episode of the Old Paths Podcast, Michael Spangler and Cody Justice discuss various topics including updates from Piedmont Presbyterian Church, recent publications from Sacra Press, and a critical review of Jeremy Karl's book 'The Unprotected Class'. They emphasize the need for virtues such as loyalty and righteous anger in the nationalist movement, arguing that complacency and a lack of moral conviction hinder progress. The conversation highlights the importance of standing firm against liberalism and the necessity of denouncing harmful ideologies while fostering a strong sense of community among nationalists.

    HIGHLIGHTS

    • Michael's church is experiencing growth and new members.
    • Sacra Press has released several new books and offers subscriptions.
    • Cody's review of Jeremy Carl's book serves as a rebuke to uncritical endorsements.
    • Loyalty among nationalists is crucial for success.
    • Denouncing effective leaders weakens the movement.
    • Righteous anger is necessary to combat societal evils.
    • Complacency in the face of evil is a significant problem.
    • The need for virtues like piety and fortitude in nationalism.
    • Criticism of Jeremy Carl highlights the dangers of liberalism.
    • The importance of community and support among nationalists.

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Introduction and Updates from Piedmont Presbyterian Church

    06:10 Reviewing 'The Unprotected Class' by Jeremy Carl

    17:12 Critique of Jeremy Carl's Senate Hearing

    23:03 The Implications of Appointing Jeremy Carl

    27:04 The Right's Internal Divisions and Future Strategies

    30:30 Purity Spirals and Winning Strategies

    34:00 Realism vs. Imagination in Political Strategy

    39:54 Virtues for Nationalist Organizing

    50:03 The Role of Anger in Nationalism

    1 hr 2 min
  • Excommunicated for Race Realism: Sam Ketcham

    Summary

    This episode discusses the trial and excommunication of Sam Ketcham, focusing on the charges against him related to his views on race realism. The conversation explores the trial proceedings, the atmosphere during the trial, the impressions of supporters, and the arguments made by both the prosecution and defense. Key themes include the perceived lack of justice, the ambiguity of the charges, and the broader implications for faith and justice within the church. The conversation delves into the complexities of church dynamics, particularly focusing on the excommunication of Reverend Ketchum from the RPCNA. The speakers discuss the charges against him, the conflation of Liberalism with Christianity, and the implications of egalitarianism within the church. They reflect on the role of church courts, the historical context of current debates, and the need for a return to biblical truths. The discussion culminates in a call for fight within the church and a recognition of the challenges faced by those who uphold the biblical, historic Faith.


    Takeaways

    Samuel Ketchum was excommunicated for his views on race realism.

    The trial proceedings were marked by a lack of solemnity and predetermined outcomes.

    Supporters felt the trial was unjust and poorly conducted.

    The prosecution's arguments lacked clear biblical support.

    Pre-trial motions raised significant concerns about the trial's legitimacy.

    Witness testimonies were sidelined, limiting the defense's ability to present their case.

    The atmosphere during the trial was described as light-hearted despite serious charges.

    The charges against Ketchum were seen as vague and ambiguous.

    The defense argued that the prosecution failed to substantiate their claims.

    The trial raised broader questions about justice within the church. The church is facing charges of being against its own progress.

    There is a conflation of natural inequalities with racism in church discussions.

    Egalitarianism is viewed as a denial of God's order.

    Excommunication is seen as a miscarriage of justice.

    The role of church courts is critical in maintaining doctrinal integrity.

    Witness testimonies can significantly impact church proceedings.

    Historical context is essential in understanding current debates.

    Natural inequalities are acknowledged but often denied in modern discourse.

    The church must confront its own history to move forward.

    A call for reform and a return to biblical truths is necessary.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to the Trial and Excommunication

    02:59 Background of Charges and Trial Proceedings

    06:11 Impressions from Supporters at the Trial

    09:06 Trial Observations and Judicial Conduct

    12:12 Prosecution's Arguments and Charges

    14:51 Defense and Pre-Trial Motions

    17:58 Summary of Prosecution's Claims

    20:58 Discussion on Judicial Process and Fairness

    23:57 Witness Testimonies and Trial Dynamics

    34:41 Witnesses and Their Role in the Trial

    41:29 Defense Arguments and Charges Overview

    56:44 Excommunication and Its Implications

    01:07:45 Compassion vs. Reality in Society

    01:09:17 Unequal Distribution of Talents and Abilities

    01:10:44 The Impact of IQ on Opportunities

    01:12:24 The Role of Truth in Racial Discussions

    01:16:10 Historical Context of Racial Contributions

    01:18:43 Personal Experiences and Observations

    01:23:39 The Debate on Slavery and Its Implications

    01:26:16 Reflections on the RPCNA and Church Integrity

    01:30:41 The Aftermath of Excommunication

    01:34:43 A Call to Action for the Church

    1 hr 48 min
  • American Mantle Review (Jan. 2026)

    Summary

    In this episode of the Old Paths podcast, Michael Spangler and Cody Justice delve into recent articles from American Mantle, discussing the importance of discerning friends from enemies in political discourse, the role of AI in shaping modern strategies, and the challenges of defining American identity. They explore the need for leadership and organization within political movements, particularly focusing on the Middle American Radicals and their potential to challenge the current regime. The conversation emphasizes the necessity of adapting to new technologies while maintaining core principles and the importance of building a cohesive identity within the movement.

    Highlights

    • Listening is key to discerning true intentions.
    • Political leadership can often disappoint.
    • AI is a tool that can enhance political strategy.
    • Defining American identity is crucial for unity.
    • Leadership is essential for effective organization.
    • Middle America holds potential for political change.
    • Cultural narratives shape political realities.
    • Institutional independence is necessary for growth.
    • Polarization is a reality in modern politics.
    • The future requires new strategies and forms.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to American Mantle and Recent Articles

    06:12 Understanding Friends and Enemies in Political Discourse

    10:49 Disappointment with Political Leadership

    14:22 The Role of Technology in Modern Politics

    20:22 AI's Impact on Political Narratives

    26:33 The Anthropological Void in American Identity

    47:06 Citing Exceptions and Political Identity

    49:01 Defining American Identity

    52:42 New Forms for a New Era

    53:02 The Role of the Vine and Iron

    01:03:00 Middle American Radicals and Political Strategy

    01:14:40 Confronting the Ruling Class

    1 hr 29 min
  • Reformed Presbyterian Persecution: Interview with Samuel Ketcham

    Summary

    In this episode of the Old Paths podcast, hosts Michael Spangler and Cody Justice engage with Samuel Ketchum, a minister in the RPCNA, discussing his journey to ministry, the challenges he has faced, particularly regarding race and theology, and the charges brought against him by his presbytery. Ketchum shares his insights on the importance of biblical preaching, the current state of the church, and the implications of his trial set for January 24th. The conversation notes some of the concrete charges brought against Ketcham, emphasizes the need for accountability and truth in ministry, as well as the complexities surrounding race in the church today.

    Takeaways

    • Samuel Ketchum shares his background and journey to ministry.
    • He discusses the challenges he faced in his early ministry experiences.
    • Ketchum highlights the importance of preaching and its current challenges in the church.
    • The conversation delves into the intersection of race and theology in Ketchum's writings.
    • Ketchum explains the charges brought against him by the RPCNA.
    • He reflects on the implications of these charges for his ministry and the church.
    • The discussion emphasizes the need for biblical fidelity in preaching.
    • Ketchum expresses his desire for a more honest conversation about race in the church.
    • The trial date is set for January 24th, and Ketchum prepares to defend his views.
    • The conversation concludes with a call for accountability in ministry.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Background of Samuel Ketcham

    04:03 Journey to Ministry and Early Experiences

    09:14 Challenges in Ordination and Preaching Philosophy

    14:53 The Role of Preaching in the Church Today

    19:52 Transitioning Between Denominations and Racial Awareness

    25:08 The Impact of Race on Faith and Community

    30:06 Current Trial and Charges in the RPCNA

    35:46 Understanding the Charges of Sin

    43:31 The Role of Scripture in Church Authority

    51:40 Critique of Judicial Processes in the Church

    57:01 Historical Context of Abolitionism and Its Implications

    01:03:23 The Importance of Biblical Foundation in Charges

    01:07:43 The Role of Historical Context in Modern Debates

    01:10:00 Vows and Commitments in Religious Institutions

    01:12:41 Personal Experiences and Reactions to Controversy

    01:14:41 The Intersection of Race and Theology

    01:18:57 Egalitarianism and Its Challenges

    01:20:20 Public Perception and Accountability in Ministry

    01:22:01 The Nature of Presbyterian Judicial Processes

    01:24:53 The Importance of Honest Discourse in Theology

    01:33:07 Next Steps in the Journey of Faith and Accountability

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    1 hr 38 min
  • Marrow 15: The Person of Christ

    Summary

    In this episode of the Old Paths podcast, Michael Spangler and Cody Justice continue in The Marrow of Theology by William Ames. They delve into the theological concepts surrounding the person of Christ as the mediator and the implications of redemption, discussing William Ames' teachings on restoration, the dual nature of Christ, and the significance of his blood in the context of redemption. The conversation also touches on contemporary controversies regarding Christ's nature and the importance of understanding these doctrines for a robust faith, with an emphasis on the need for careful theological reflection and the application of these truths in the lives of believers.

    Takeaways

    • Redemption is both accomplished and applied.
    • Christ's work is central to understanding salvation.
    • The mediator stands between God and man.
    • The hypostatic union is a mystery of faith.
    • Redemption emphasizes our ownership by Christ.
    • Christ's blood signifies the high price of redemption.
    • Understanding Christ's dual nature is essential.
    • The communication of properties is a complex issue.
    • Christ's knowledge reflects his dual nature.
    • Our response to Christ's sacrifice should be obedience.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Updates on American Mantle

    03:09 Transition to Restoration and Redemption

    11:33 Understanding Redemption and the Redeemer

    18:52 The Mediator: Christ's Role in Redemption

    29:01 The Hypostatic Union and Its Implications

    35:53 Controversies in Christology and Sacramental Theology

    38:19 Understanding the Sacramental Language

    41:56 Covenant Theology and Christ's Presence

    45:36 The Schism Between Lutheran and Reformed Views

    47:40 The Nature of Christ's Knowledge

    54:10 Theological Reflections on Christ's Dual Nature

    01:00:38 Application of Christ's Teachings in Our Lives


    1 hr 6 min
  • Response to Presbycast On Kinism

    Summary

    In this episode of the Old Paths Podcast, Michael and Cody respond to a Presbycast episode that critiques kinism and discusses racial egalitarianism within the church. They explore various themes including the nature of church statements on race, the implications of division within the church, and the historical context of racial issues. The conversation delves into theological perspectives on race, the role of nations, and the importance of natural principles in church governance. Throughout the discussion, they emphasize the need for a nuanced understanding of race and identity in the context of Christianity, while critiquing the arguments presented by their opponents.

    Highlights

    • Division in the church is often oversimplified and misattributed.
    • Racial egalitarianism is not universally accepted within the church.
    • The distinction between conversion and naturalization is crucial.
    • Historical context is essential in understanding racial issues.
    • Patriarchy and gender roles are biblically defined and should not be dismissed.
    • Misinterpretations of scripture can lead to false accusations of heresy.
    • Racial identity is significant in the context of the gospel.
    • Political implications of race discussions cannot be ignored.
    • Natural principles should inform church governance and leadership.
    • Cultural heritage and racial identity are important aspects of faith.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to the Discussion on Kinism

    03:42 Critique of Racial Egalitarianism in the Church

    06:36 Understanding Division and Heresy

    09:39 The Nature of Church and Nation

    12:30 Examining Exceptions in Biblical Contexts

    15:29 The Role of Race in Scripture

    19:48 Misinterpretations of Racial Identity

    23:41 The Unity of Humanity and Race

    26:41 Political Implications of Racial Discussions

    30:32 The Nature of Race and Morality

    34:36 Christ's Racial Identity and Its Significance

    38:26 Divine Boundaries and Racial Divisions

    42:41 Theological Implications of Kinism

    46:55 Critique of Modern Church Practices

    50:40 Hospitality and Immigration in the Church

    55:12 Jesus and Racial Affection

    58:53 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    59:13 Contempt for Misuse of Scripture

    01:04:00 Racial Issues and the Gospel

    01:06:08 Debating Kinism and Ethno-nationalism

    01:08:58 Equivocation on Racial Identity

    01:14:18 Responses to Racial Arguments

    01:19:42 Historical Context of Racial Discussions

    01:25:52 The Role of Race in Church Leadership

    01:31:56 Truth and the Future of Racial Discussions

    01:40:05 Southern Identity and Historical Context

    01:47:21 Gratitude for Racial Heritage

    01:52:48 Final Thoughts on Race and Church

    Keywords

    Kinism, Presbycast, racial egalitarianism, church division, racial theological implications, racial identity, church governance, natural principles, cultural heritage, church unity

    2 hr 3 min

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