Today’s guest is a pioneer both in the fields of computational neuroscience and artificial intelligence (AI) and has had a front seat during their development. 

His many contributions include, for example, the invention of the Boltzmann machine with Ackley and Hinton in the mid 1980s. 

In this “vintage” episode recorded in late 2019 he describes the joint births of these adjacent scientific fields and outlines how they came about.