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  • Breaking the Chains of Suffering: Exploring the Vital Link Between Freedom and Healing

    Are you afraid of suffering? What if we told you that suffering is not a curse, but a true gift? 

    This week on On This Walk, my walking partner is Boaz Feldman. We dive deep into the theme of suffering and the freedom that comes from its alleviation. We explore the power of group work and social interaction in facilitating healing and growth, as well as the importance of somatic expression and co-regulation. We also discuss the societal and cultural factors that impact individual experiences of suffering and the role of group processes in addressing these patterns. 

    Get ready for an enlightening conversation filled with insights and much more!


    In This Episode

    • (08:16) - Boaz’s motivation to alleviate suffering and promote liberation
    • (12:53) - The healing power of social engagement and interaction 
    • (18:07) - The Social Baseline Theory
    • (31:29) - How connecting to a wider system can lead to healing 
    • (34:02) -The impact of community and tribal leaders on mental health and wellbeing.
    • (36:50) - The effectiveness of groups in facilitating healing and recovery from trauma.
    • (45:12) -The principle of encouraging embodied action in group therapy
    • (57:28) -The importance of relationships for happiness, well-being, and longevity
    • (01:00:01) -The lazy person's way to happiness
    • (01:00:18) -Why shame and social exclusion are like a physiological death.

    • Notable Quotes

      • “Gratitude is a pretty cool and enjoyable feeling. And so when there are these enjoyable feelings that are particularly sort of low arousal like gratitude, because you can also have joy and ecstasy and excitement and all that, that's a bit more difficult to go into the body then. But when you have low arousal and positive energy, a really interesting question could be, oh, you feel gratitude now Luke, how does that gratitude manifest in the body? What's the felt sense of that in your experience right now? And maybe they don't even describe a physical sensation because maybe they're not ready to go into the body, or maybe that's not what's most present. But at least there's the invitation, and again, it's like a ritual quality of the deepest way in which we can land things in the present moment is through our somatic experience.” – Boaz (49:45)
      • “The more that we cannot only deepen the way in which we use our presence, things like deep listening and things like that with others, that's certainly true in the way that it changes. But when we get that present, we become more present to what our experience is in relation to others. And that usually is going to surface things of helping people recognize some of maybe what they're struggling with or what are some of the things that come up for them when they're out and about in their other relationships the rest of their life. But if that can begin to come up as part of these interactions inside of a container that's been crafted, we can talk about those things, we can surface those things, we can explore those things and people feel safe and accepted and not judged while they're doing that because of the container that's been created.” – Luke (13:49)

      • Our Guest

        Boaz Feldman is a practical visionary, experienced psychologist, keynote speaker, and trainer for worldwide positive change. He is a Somatic Experience Practitioner, Organic Intelligence core faculty, and Mindfulness-Based Cognitive Therapy graduate. Boaz founded NeuroSystemics, a somatically-centered approach for meditation training, therapy, and group therapy.


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        • Boaz Feldman

          • https://www.linkedin.com/in/boazbfeldman/
          1 hr 4 min
        • Tapping the Inner Resources: Changing Life with Embodiment

          This week on "On This Walk" my walking partners Debra Hess and Matt Hogan will challenge your thinking as we examine the influence embodiment has on our feelings and sense of self-alignment connecting with our bodies and finding inner peace.

          We go into the concept that embodiment is the key to experiencing genuine vitality, and how letting go of inhibitions and embracing every sensation may free our full potential. Debra and Matt share rituals and advice that might help us feel comfortable expressing our feelings and tapping into our intuition.

          Listen as we help you overcome your inhibitions and see your feelings as a force for a positive change in your life.

          In This Episode

          • (13:35) Overcoming the fear to find inner alignment.
          • (16:09) Is embodiment the key to feeling alive?
          • (19:48) Embracing vulnerability and shedding fears
          • (25:15) Unleashing the power of emotions
          • (32:11) Discovering inner guidance and the hallmarks of an embodiment for a lighter life
          • (43:53) What are we really after?
          • (47:48) Unleashing creative solutions through love, and exploring uncertainty
          • (49:43) The path to co-creation and inner wisdom
          • (57:52) The journey of threading versus the journey of evolving
          • (01:05:35) Uncovering the hidden forces behind our emotions
          • Notable Quotes

            • “A big piece of this is restoring the balance that our systems naturally have, but have then lost their way because of all the holding, all the suppressing. And so in that vein, something that's been really useful for me to create safety and create my willingness to move forward and trust this path is having time devoted like a ritual, a container in my morning that I said this time is for me to feel everything that I need to feel and literally put it all on the table and literally have this demarcation point into this container and out of this container.” Matt - (37:40)
            • “There's an infinite amount of possibilities within us. And once you come in and realize that there are resources, there's an inner resource designed by your divinity to help you access and co-create these solutions that are far beyond what your mind could come up with. Your mind has knowledge, experience, and buffers. Your intuitiveness and your wisdom don't feel those risks, and so it presents them as you take that dive in, knowing there's mystery and unknown, and being comfortable with the unknown as this place of possibility.” – Debra (48:38)
            • Our Guests

              Debra Hess is a sacred midwife who helps others navigate the Narrow Gate of Love. With years of psychotherapy, 500 hours in yoga teacher training, a Bachelor's degree in Music Therapy, and certifications in Laughter Yoga and Yoga Nidra, Debra has honed her skills in guiding individuals toward peace, wholeness, and happiness. Through her own healing journey, Debra has discovered that all of existence flows through us, and she considers it an honor to serve others with the joy that overflows from her own awakening.

              Matt Hogan is a self-mastery enthusiast and coach who has dedicated his life to living in alignment. From battling depression and attempting suicide to reaching the heights of corporate success and traveling the world, Matt's personal journey has inspired his work in helping prominent entrepreneurs, executives, and change-makers bring their full selves into their work and relationships.

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              • Debra Hess

                https://www.lightseekersyoga.com/ 

                Matt Hogan

                • https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-hogan-44b5b869/
                • https://www.facebook.com/Theworldwidefearconversation/
                • https://matthoganworldwide.medium.com/
                • 1 hr 8 min
                • Man on Fire: Releasing Patterns of Emotional Trauma

                  This week on On This Walk, I’m joined by my walking partner, David Mehler, as we discuss how he is helping men overcome internal despair and disconnection to become the kings they were born to be.

                  In this episode, David shares his first conscious awakening experience when he was 26 years old and experienced his fifth session of NSA. He describes the experience as a cathartic experience where he felt like he came home to himself and was embodied by the experience of grace and gratitude.

                  Listen as we discuss what David’s journey from the head into the body and back into the heart, which is an opportunity to experience the full array of different emotions that are afforded to us as human beings. He also explains that the more we allow ourselves to face and feel, the more we can experience joy, pleasure, awe, and all of the beautiful things within our life.

                  In This Episode

                  • (09:31) – The idea of a safe haven.
                  • (14:04) – How our traumas create a distortion in our posture
                  • (23:58) – The distortions in our frequencies
                  • (29:57) – What if your reality is just a tiny fragment of a much grander scheme?
                  • (31:55) – Identifying the distortions behind our patterns
                  • (34:47) – Masculine and feminine energies
                  • (38:11) – How our patterns, traumas and hurts are unique
                  • (40:02) – Who exactly are we?
                  • (43:29) – How do we make that shift when we find the energy?
                  • (54:59) – What is a man’s purpose and how does he find one?
                  • Notable Quotes

                    • “A spiritual journey for anyone is really to drop out of the head, back into the body, back into the heart, where you actually could start feeling again, come back into the safe place… What if you could go into the center of the pain and actually use it as fuel, as leverage for transformation and growth in your life? What if the pain, hurts, wounds, and traumas were not an accident, but were divinely placed there and planned by your soul, so you ultimately one day would have the leverage to discover more of who you are and give your gifts out to the world? This journey from the head into the body, back into the heart is an opportunity to experience the full myriad, full array of different emotions that are afforded to us as human beings.” – David (10:14)
                    • “The mind can be a beautiful and powerful tool for us, but it can also ensnare us as it wants to keep us safe, certain, and focused on problems for the sake of either solving those problems or because of perceived danger. It's the interpreter of our nervous systems, which are all too often dysregulated and on overdrive. These practices, among many others, help us to move back into a regulated, regenerative, more conscious and more mindful state. From there, we can receive information from our bodies, hearts, energy, as well as our minds in a clear and calm state. This opens us up to many more great possibilities for how we can navigate our lives, and in particular, our relationships. Now, more than ever, we need those calm and clear minds, and the best way to get there is through your body, and most definitely through your heart.” – Luke (30:09)
                    • Our Guest

                      David Mehler created Man on Fire in 2015 to help men who, on the outside, seem to have everything going for them—they're running at top speed in their career or business—but on the inside, they're drowning in the monsoon trenches of internal despair. His passion, power, and purpose are to save these men and help them become the kings they were meant to be.

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                      • David Mehler

                        • https://manonfirerising.com/ 
                        • https://www.instagram.com/manonfireofficial/ 
                        • https://www.facebook.com/manonfireofficial 
                        • https://www.youtube.com/@ManOnFIRERising
                        • 1 hr 4 min
                        • Moving Out of Pain and into Our Authentic Power

                          This week on On This Walk, we're talking about helping people go on a deep inner journey to find themselves, their deepest truth, and the fulfillment they've longed for their whole life. My walking partner today, Jennifer DePascale, understands this all too well.

                          Jennifer DePascale is a self-realization expert, international speaker, coach, and RTT therapist. She believes that each and every one of us has unique gifts, a powerful intuition, and a call from life that only we can connect to. She is a student of life and has studied at the Marisa Peer School, the Four Winds Society, Vesica Institute, Mind Valley, and many others.

                          Listen in as we discuss a variety of topics including a recent Oxford Talks she participated in, the process of internalization and the concept of radical responsibility, and how she brings her clients back into alignment with their inner knowing so they can live to their full potential. 


                          In This Episode

                          • (06:54) – When we talk about our power, what do we mean?
                          • (09:28) – Explaining the process of internalizing and how it happens.
                          • (14:12) – Clearing out and arriving at a more empowered place.
                          • (16:04) – The little voice, the inner guidance system calling you to your true self.
                          • (20:36) – The idea of how we learn to listen within.
                          • (27:22) – Going deep into nature to receive deeper messages.
                          • (30:06) – The path of speaking up and staying true.
                          • (34:35) – Creating space to relate and work with life differently.
                          • (36:51) – Changing the collective by working on ourselves.
                          • (43:22) – The concept of radical responsibility.
                          • (52:31) – Jennifer on coming full circle and how her life is different now.

                          • Notable Quotes

                            • “There is so much hurt and pain that we are walking around with at any given time and we are projecting that out onto the world. But if we want to actually change that collective, we don't change the collective by working on the collective. We change the collective by working on ourselves so that we show up differently, so that we let different information in, we let different experiences in, and then we begin to shine that light, that consciousness, that awareness back out. But it's not by trying to fix the other, but by trying to heal ourselves, by trying to create that space within us.” – Luke (36:19)



                            • “The more that you come into alignment with your soul and what your purpose is and what your higher self wants from you, the more of all of those above-the-line emotions you feel. The peace, the joy, the happiness, the fulfillment, the ‘I don't know what tomorrow is going to bring’, ‘I don't set goals the way that all the business people do’, we're much more open to life and knowing that I am on the right path, it's like life happens for us. Everything around you, all of the forces are like cheering you on and saying, yes, we've got your back. And you start seeing signs of it in your life and synchronicities, and all sorts of amazing things happen.” – Jennifer (53:28)


                            Our Guest

                            Jennifer DePascale believes that each and every one of us has soul gifts and a unique call from life. After years of unlocking her own truths, she was called to teach and coach others on how to quiet the noise of their inner and outer worlds to find the messages hiding in the depths of stillness within. She has been helping people go on a deep inner journey to find themselves, their deepest truth, and the fulfillment they've longed for their whole life.


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                            • https://www.linkedin.com/in/lukeiorio/
                            • https://instagram.com/dlukeiorio
                            • https://instagram.com/onthiswalkshow

                            • Jennifer DePascale

                              • www.jenniferdepascale.com
                              • https://www.linkedin.com/in/jdepascale/
                              • https://www.instagram.com/jdepascale/
                              • https://www.facebook.com/jdepascale

                              • Mentions

                                Oxford Talks - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiBh3CrqukQ&ab_channel=OxfordTalks

                                56 min
                              • Stepping Over the Threshold of the Last Temptation

                                This week on On This Walk, we're talking about thresholds — big life thresholds —and how to cross them. We are brought to moments and experiences that when we step into and through them intentionally, we create change. These changes aren't about becoming something different. In fact, they're about becoming more of who and what we really are. 

                                I've been dancing around these thresholds for many years with my clients; talking to you, the audience, about the inflection points that I have faced and many of us will face on this long walk back home to ourselves. Joining me today are two amazing walking partners, Kristina Marie, and Aaron Rose, who know this subject very well, personally and professionally.

                                Listen in as we talk about the New Myth, the Last Temptation, and the difference between living for compared to living from. In fact, there are two main sources we tend to draw from but one leases to suffering while the other to liberation. My interaction with Kristina and Aaron hit home on many occasions and I am certain it will for you as well.


                                In This Episode

                                • (05:54) – Creatrix of the new myth helping authors and writers.
                                • (11:44) – The cycle of weaving of different energies that embody within.
                                • (14:56) – Kristina talks about all the thresholds up to the Last Temptation.
                                • (20:38) – Aaron and Kristina reflect on their experiences with the last threshold.
                                • (24:48) – Discussing temptations disguised as sneaky invitations.
                                • (35:59) – How do you know it’s time to move forward as you arrive at the last threshold?
                                • (40:39) – The reality vs the blind faith leap from the outside looking in.
                                • (53:26) – How we live mythically.
                                • (1:00:31) – Living for something vs living from.
                                • (1:06:03) – Connections between the means and the ends.
                                • (1:11:17) – Kristina and Aaron’s advice for people who are at the threshold.

                                • Notable Quotes

                                  • “If you're listening to this right now, if you're resonating with this, you're exactly where you need to be on your path. And there are more or less aligned choices, but all of it is data collection. We only know about what the know feels like because we've done the know and then we've seen what the result is. So, I would invite Courage to make the choice, you know, you need to make. I would invite compassion for yourself within the process, and I would invite gentle awareness of where you are on your path.” – Aaron (1:11:15)


                                  • “I wish someone would have said to me then when I was really flailing around and had nobody even to talk to about this kind of stuff, let alone guide me. I was very much a fish out of water doing my own thing, and I feel like the simplest, truest thing I could have heard then is, be still. Just create one minute of silence with yourself. Every day. One minute. Anyone can do anything for one minute. I don't care how busy you are or what you got going on. One minute is possible.” Kristina (1:15:15)


                                  Our Guests

                                  Kristina Marie is a transformational story mentor and the creatrix of the New Myth. She worked as a journalist and an editor at top national publications, such as The New York Times for more than a decade. Now she combines her publishing skills, intuitive gifts, and creative wisdom to mentor transformational leaders, visionaries, and storytellers.

                                  Aaron Rose is a writer, mentor, and teacher. He combines transformational coaching, subconscious reprogramming, meditation, and prayer to support leaders and visionaries in discovering their divine mission, following their inner authority, and co-creating their wildest dreams with God.


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                                  • https://instagram.com/onthiswalkshow

                                  • Mentions

                                    • EMERGE — Voyages of the Spirit - https://www.voyagesofthespirit.com/emerge
                                    • Sacred Passage - https://www.the-sacred-passage.com/
                                    • 1 hr 21 min
                                    • Live from Love, Not for Love

                                      This week on On This Walk, we cover a lot of ground — leadership, love, culture, and our walks towards deeper Truth.

                                      My walking partner for today is Ryan Hartley, father of two and host of the globally popular podcast, Always Better Than Yesterday. Ryan has been a featured guest on over 30 podcasts and is regularly invited to speak at events internationally. His podcast is currently listened to in over 140 countries. 

                                      Listen as Ryan and I really get into it. We talk about what it means to live from love as opposed to for love. We discuss the influence of society and how it actually makes us feel incomplete and inadequate. We even touch on faith, religion, Christ consciousness, and spirituality. It’s all happening right here On This Walk.


                                      In This Episode

                                      • (04:01) – Evolving into the heart-centered leadership style.
                                      • (11:40) – Changing course and steering into leadership.
                                      • (16:22) – Living from love, not for love.
                                      • (22:39) – Why culture is not our friend.
                                      • (25:50) – What are our desires based on?
                                      • (31:00) – Ryan describes the challenge with the pursuit of happiness.
                                      • (34:12) – Talking about faith and seeing through a Christian lens.
                                      • (41:23) – On relating to the energy that is God.
                                      • (46:12) – Luke on the feeling of being separate.
                                      • (52:39) – Heartset - Loving with all of your minds.
                                      • (58:51) – Reflecting on what it means to be human.
                                      • (1:02:33) – The masculine and feminine views of heart-centeredness.
                                      • (1:04:44) – How the journey has changed Ryan as a father.

                                      • Notable Quotes

                                        • “The reason I say culture is not our friend is because sometimes we have to take a step back and go, where are my desires coming from? Because you might say from a heart-centered perspective, should we follow our heart's desire? And I've had to get my head around this. I try every single day to get to Psalm 23, which starts with ‘The Lord is my shepherd. I have all that I need’. And I think that is the perfect scripture to remind myself every single day that in this moment I have all that I need. I do not lack anything. And when I do that, when I truly feel blessed, grateful, appreciative, that I can look around and choose my life, then whatever I do becomes an expression of that love and gratitude.” – Ryan (24:04)


                                        • “Anytime you feel lost, separate or lacking, close your eyes. Breathe, slow down and feel. Feel for that breath that runs through you and runs through all things, all of life. You're a part of that great mystery. Source yourself from that knowing, from that love and connect to that playful, creative, rambunctious, curious, loving, generous, even weird little inner child that you are. And this again, is a practice. This remembering doesn't always happen overnight, but taking the time to feel it, to breathe with it, to touch it within us and around us. Doing this as a practice allows us to remember, it's always been there. It will always be there, and we always have access to it. No need to think your way there. Just feel for it.” – Luke (49:33)


                                        Our Guest

                                        Ryan Hartley is the Chief Heart Officer of Always Better Than Yesterday, a company that develops heart-centered leaders through coaching, consulting, community building, and podcasting. Before that, he served as a local police force for 12 years in a variety of leadership roles. Founded in 2017, Always Better Than Yesterday survived the global pandemic and thrived by helping many leaders and businesses to do the same. He's the host of the podcast with the same name that's listened to in over 140 countries.


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                                        • https://www.linkedin.com/in/lukeiorio/
                                        • https://instagram.com/dlukeiorio
                                        • https://instagram.com/onthiswalkshow

                                        • Mentions

                                          Letting Go by David Hawkins - https://www.amazon.com/Letting-David-Hawkins-M-D-Ph-D/dp/1401945015

                                          1 hr 9 min
                                        • How Empowered Are You?

                                          This week on On This Walk, we are talking about empowerment and upgrading the human operating system. Accompanying me today is a very special guest who has been working in this field for more than 30 years and has published many books on the subject. 

                                          I have spoken before about the challenge of breaking away from engrained recurring patterns that keep us stuck where we are and referenced the work of Steven Karpman, who proposed the Drama Triangle and its 3 chief roles, the victim, the perpetrator, and the rescuer. 

                                          In this episode, I sit down with David Emerald Womeldorff to talk about the roles in more detail; especially the rescuer role which actually perpetuates these recurring patterns, and together we try to answer the ultimate question: how do we switch to a new and different paradigm in order to upgrade our human operating system?


                                          In This Episode

                                          • (07:01) – Upgrading our operating system for humanity.
                                          • (12:46) – The need for new paradigm thinking ideologies.
                                          • (14:10) – Dissecting the disempowering dynamic in more detail.
                                          • (17:12) – Elaborating on the role of the victim mindset.
                                          • (25:59) – The outcome of the empowerment dynamic.
                                          • (31:07) – Anything that challenges us is a stimulus.
                                          • (41:00) – How do we switch dynamic?
                                          • (47:44) – Compassion-based medication and empathy. 
                                          • (50:22) – Connecting with someone on an empathetic level.
                                          • (52:55) – Developing the capacity to see the creator's essence in the other.
                                          • (55:43) – Economic growth as the center of our outcome orientation.
                                          • (58:44) – The seven generations perspective.
                                          • (1:02:22) – On humanity being on the verge of an inflection point.

                                          • Notable Quotes

                                            • “Empowerment is not that you are giving power to somebody. It is that you are reminding them they already have the power in the first place. And everybody inside of the empowerment dynamic maintains that as kind of this underlying belief is that each person here that is involved in the dynamic or the situation, there is power that is here and there is power that creates choice. We need to respect that choice and respect the sovereignty of what is involved as well. But the coach is there to support that, not to jump in. Not to solve it for somebody, not to do any of those things, but instead to be part of supporting the container that's been created and with that curiosity, with that openness, with those questions, help people start to connect to the answers that already lie within for themselves.” – Luke (34:27)


                                            • “The outcome orientation is we put our focus on the outcome or outcomes we wanna create in our lives. And if we care about it, it engages our passion, our sense of purpose, our desire for that outcome, which gives us the energy to engage in what I call baby steps, but in whatever next action is that is gonna help me get closer to or clearer about the outcome they wanna create. So the outcome orientation is the upgrade, the outcome operating system is the upgrade that I think is humanity we're being called to step into. What kind of world do we wanna create? What kind of personal lives do we wanna create? And to be clear about that rather than reacting to what is coming at us.” – David (10:15)


                                            Our Guest

                                            David Emerald Womeldorff is the co-founder of the Center for The Empowerment Dynamic. As director of the center's Organizational Leadership and Self Leadership Practice Areas, David's passion is in supporting individuals, teams, and organizations in leading and working from an outcome-focused and passion-powered orientation. His principles and frameworks are based on his 30 years of study, observation, and application of his lessons of collaboration with a wide range of individuals and organizations.

                                            He's the author of the bestselling book The Power of TED, and Three Vital Questions.


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                                            • https://www.linkedin.com/in/lukeiorio/
                                            • https://instagram.com/dlukeiorio
                                            • https://instagram.com/onthiswalkshow
                                            • 1 hr 5 min
                                            • Second Guess Your Second Guessing

                                              This week on On This Walk, I am speaking directly to you, my audience.

                                              Join me as I talk about second-guessing, sowing fear, and creating doubt; and how the mind plays these tricks on our human design in order to distract us from the obvious truth; that the mind was never meant to be in charge; rather a faithful servant of the heart and soul. 

                                              This is one episode you don’t want to miss.


                                              In This Episode

                                              • (00:30) – Revisiting my human design.
                                              • (05:18) – Concerns about sowing the seeds of doubt.
                                              • (10:25) – Second guessing your wisdom.
                                              • (12:20) – Listening to the inner voice and where it’s coming from.  
                                              • (15:30) – What part of you is second-guessing?
                                              • (17:00) – What is the game your doubt is playing?

                                              • Notable Quotes

                                                • “I'm asking you to second guess your second guessing. I'm asking you to doubt your doubt. And that's where I want you to use your skepticism. I want you to break free from what limits you and begin to trust the truth that's trying to speak through you, that's calling you to the life that you really wish to create.” Luke (16:30)


                                                • “More often than not, it's the mind that is afraid and it's projecting its fear onto you and onto what it sees. Because at some point the mind is worried that you might just discover the mind was never meant to be in charge. The mind was meant to be a faithful servant of the heart and of the soul. The mind is meant to be a tool, a powerful tool, but a tool that serves you.” Luke (17:29)


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                                                • https://instagram.com/dlukeiorio
                                                • https://instagram.com/onthiswalkshow
                                                • 19 min
                                                • A Look at Masculinity Beyond Shame

                                                  What would it mean for you to be without shame? As human beings, as part of nature, we’re naturally drawn to wanting to restore balance and peace within our lives, and there are two ways in which we can do it – the healthy way, or the unhealthy way. In today’s episode, we dig deep into how we can allow ourselves to feel the things we do not want to feel: shame, anger, grief, and so on, and learn to find the deeper message underneath it.

                                                  Accompanying me on today’s walk are William Walker and David Bryan, and together we discuss shame from multiple angles and views ranging from shame being a protective shield to shame redefining our masculinity.


                                                  In This Episode

                                                  • (05:54) – Describing the different types of shame.
                                                  • (08:53) – On being riddled and crippled by shame.
                                                  • (17:31) – Disempowering patterns, beliefs, and behaviors.
                                                  • (22:13) – Giving voice to all parts of you, shameful and proud.  
                                                  • (32:36) – Beautifully redefining manhood.
                                                  • (35:32) – Shame is your protector.
                                                  • (51:08) – Identifying the definitions of masculinity within you.
                                                  • (51:33) – David recalls a moment of self-accountability and self-acceptance.
                                                  • (1:03:00) – William on how men are terrified of knowing who they are.
                                                  • (1:03:26) – On being accountable to align your souls.
                                                  • (1:11:18) – Creating a compelling vision to justify the pain of change.

                                                  • Notable Quotes

                                                    • “My experience working with a lot of men and also myself is that sometimes men are terrified to know who they are. They're terrified because they built a life in an image around being a certain kind of man, and they're being loved for being a certain kind of man. What if they change what people still love them? Will they still have the status they have? Will their wife still love them? Will their kids still love them? Men are terrified about that because they want to be responsible for their environments and they should be. But there is a part of this I think every man has to face, which is you have to be responsible, but you also have to be true to yourself. If you're not true to yourself, you're going to be miserable. You're going to make people suffer anyway. So you have to do both.” William (1:03:00)


                                                    • “My father stood in front of them, and he said these words. Every one of you on this committee I've gotten to know personally and each of you has shared intimate details about things that you would not want to be mentioned in this room. So, if you're judging me today and you want to excommunicate me, pull the trigger. I've never been more proud of my father than in that moment because he knew his humanity. He knew who he was. He knew he had failed.” David (56:04)


                                                    Our Guests

                                                    William Walker coaches men and leaders on their personal and leadership development. Over the past 20 years he has worked with diverse adult and youth populations including men, executives, entrepreneurs, thought leaders, community leaders, inmates, adolescent boys, at-risk teenagers, and university students. He is the author of Walk of Honor and Stories of Sovereign Man and has written several articles on men’s health, organizational learning and leadership, personal mastery, and masculinity.

                                                    David Bryan became a father at 21. Throughout much of his life in both white-collar and blue-collar jobs, he struggled to provide financially, wrestled with a victim mindset, and lived paycheck to paycheck. In 2013, David committed to changing his life and was immersed in the teachings of Tony Robbins, and Eric Thomas, among others. Over the next decade, David went from being homeless to building a multi-million-dollar construction management firm, in the halls of Harvard Business School. 


                                                    Resources & Links

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                                                    • https://www.facebook.com/dlukeiorio
                                                    • https://www.linkedin.com/in/lukeiorio/
                                                    • https://instagram.com/dlukeiorio
                                                    • https://instagram.com/onthiswalkshow
                                                    • 1 hr 19 min
                                                    • Rediscovering Wholeness – Bringing the Parts Back Together

                                                      My guest on today’s walk has experienced burnout personally and has been on a multi-year journey of healing and compassion that brought her back together again. 

                                                      Avery Thatcher is the CEO and founder of The Truth About Burnout Podcast and the Flow State Membership. When she started her career as a Registered Nurse working in the ICU she noticed that the majority of the reasons people found themselves in the ICU were because of illnesses and diseases that could be linked to chronic stress. She decided to get out of the reactive side of medicine and now helps highly sensitive high achievers prevent burnout and reverse the negative health effects of stress. 

                                                      After experiencing a significant change of health and severe burnout in 2018, Avery had to learn to redefine her identity and grieve the loss of who she used to be. Now she shares her story openly to help others realize that they are not alone in their struggles and talk about the strategies that helped her heal along the way.

                                                      I sit down with Avery to reflect on the dichotomous way of living, the importance of compassion in her own healing, how she came to terms with the sick and hurt side of her personality and turned her health around.


                                                      In This Episode

                                                      • (05:55) – Reflecting on the dichotomous way of living.
                                                      • (08:35) – The red flag of a toxic ICU.
                                                      • (12:09) – How Avery started to numb out.  
                                                      • (15:06) – My experiences with burning out.
                                                      • (21:40) – Going through the five stages of grief in two years.
                                                      • (23:39) – Coming to terms and working out stuff with the sick Avery.
                                                      • (27:32) – On changing her name and telling her family.
                                                      • (35:31) – Asking yourself: What do I actually need?
                                                      • (37:13) – Measuring achievement in terms of impact and creating.
                                                      • (42:25) – Discussing labels and satisfying an underlying need.
                                                      • (44:49) – Bringing awareness around differing values.
                                                      • (48:51) – Returning to the wholeness and fullness of who we are.
                                                      • (52:07) – The role of compassion in Avery’s journey.
                                                      • (57:47) – What makes suffering so challenging?

                                                      • Notable Quotes

                                                        • “This is still a part of me and all of me deserves compassion. And then I wrote to this part of me that is sick. This part of me that is disabled, this part of me that is keeping me from who I used to be, who I identified as. And I said, I love you. Let's figure this out. You are along for the ride. I'm going to work with you rather than against you. And it was at that moment that I realized that I needed to somehow create a fresh start.” – Avery (24:32)


                                                        • “Compassion and authenticity aren't an end goal. They're not an outcome. They are a path themselves that's creating. When we create with the same energy that we want in the outcome, that's how we actually get the outcome. Both Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr spoke about how the means and the ends must be one and the same in a sense, and to quote Gandhi specifically, means are ends in the making.” – Luke (37:59)


                                                        Resources & Links

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                                                        • https://www.facebook.com/dlukeiorio
                                                        • https://www.linkedin.com/in/lukeiorio/
                                                        • https://instagram.com/dlukeiorio
                                                        • https://instagram.com/onthiswalkshow

                                                        • Avery Thatcher

                                                          • https://becomingavery.com/
                                                          • https://instagram.com/becomingavery
                                                          • 1 hr 3 min

                                                          About On This Walk

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                                                          On This Walk is a podcast that explores meaning, purpose, alignment, and listening to the deeper call for our lives. It’s a journey of exploration, of questions, of experiences and hard-won wisdom.…