On This Walk

By Luke IorioReligion & Spirituality Education Self-Improvement Spirituality

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December 13, 2022Moving Past Trauma to Unlock Intimacy & Fulfillment
Have you ever felt like your trauma is keeping you frozen in time, unable to move forward? What if this also holds the possibility for serving as a pathway to greater relational intimacy and fulfillment?
Amilya Antonetti is my walking partner on today’s episode of On This Walk to break down these very questions. As the creator and CEO of Designing Genius and a world-renowned human behavior expert, she helps individuals and leaders in and out of workplaces move through challenging moments in their lives, find their purpose, and unpack their trauma.
Amilya is also full of fire, passion and personal experience.
In today’s episode, we’re discussing how to move past trauma and into fulfillment, how her trauma informed her perspective on the world, our tendency toward “sloppiness” in our relationships, why isolation is a trauma response, the importance of restoring harmony after a trigger, and the moments in her life that acted as turning points.

In This Episode
(4:43) Amilya shares how trauma has played a role in her everyday life
(8:54) Why empathy and care in our relationships are so critical
(13:14) Beware of the impact of minimizing our own pain in our healing journey
(17:50) How a lack of safety as a child shows up decades later
(25:32) Amilya uncovers the trauma that’s at the heart of isolation
(28:17) The turning point that changed everything for Amilya
(33:58) How to find your way back to the present and verbalize triggers
(37:23) Important anchor points: communicate, develop trust, and ground yourself
(43:07) Trust is like tree rings
(50:42) The truth about introverts and extroverts
(55:43) How trauma allows us to balance our masculine and feminine energy
(59:20) The role of intimacy in pain and trauma
Notable Quotes
“For me, I follow a tree… Inside of a tree and then there’s rings… You have to demonstrate to me my ability to trust you based on your ability to take responsibility for it. And so my inside ring of a tree has very few people in there, and then I have a next layer and a next layer and a next layer. And those layers are based on my comfortability of how they can or cannot trigger me and work through that. So not everybody is invited into the inside circle. And they shouldn't be because there’s a lot of responsibility there. And then I loosen the responsibility as I move out, and then I’m always gauging where somebody really should live to honor them and honor myself.” – Amilya (43:59)
“We’re holding onto certainty because that’s our house of cards. That’s the way that we believe that we feel and hold onto safety. I can tell you right now, regardless of whatever the trauma is that you've been through in your life, if you’re listening, this is true for you. And I know that this wrestling match that we have with uncertainty is at the core of so much of the struggle and so much of the dance where we’d rather put up the illusion. We’d rather believe that we’re in this house of cards but it’s built with brick. Even though it’s NOT.” – Luke (24:58)
Our Guest
Amilya Antonetti is the creator and CEO of Designing Genius and a world-renowned human behavior expert that has been featured on Oprah, The Steve Harvey Show, Dr. Phil, and more. Her mission is to help individuals and leaders in and out of workplaces move through obstacles and come out the other side with greater insight on their purpose.

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1 hr 7 min
December 06, 2022Leading with Love & Restoring Balance
How do we forgive ourselves when we’ve hurt the ones we love, and how do we simultaneously extend grace and compassion to others when they make mistakes?
We’re all human, which means we’ve all hurt someone at one point or another, but the defining moments often come after when we have to decide how to restore balance. The most harmonious relationships require us to lead with love, and in today’s episode, my walking companion, Lisane Basquiat, is sharing how she applies this philosophy in her life.
As we continue our conversation from our recent episode together on her podcast, Shaping Freedom, we dive deeper into how she has worked to restore balance internally and externally, how this shift requires flexibility and determination, and why it’s important for us to evaluate our wants vs. our needs.
Join us on this walk to find out how you can foster alignment and harmony in yourself and your relationships.

In This Episode
(3:30) Lisane shares the experience that acted as a catalyst for change
(8:16) How to be aware of our tendency to hurt the people closest to us and how to restore balance
(17:00) Why we have to lead with love in our relationships
(22:15) The role of forgiveness and grace in fostering balance
(24:55) The importance of forgiving ourselves while remaining compassionate with others
(28:18) How to approach balance with a sense of flexibility
(32:13) Why we have to see, hear, and understand others in conflict
(38:37) Evaluating our needs vs. our wants
(44:25) “We are all creators.”
(47:00) Lisane shares her tips for honoring your harmony and agency
Notable Quotes
“Just like in the relationships that we have with other people, there is this ongoing dialogue with ourselves, and it includes the same elements of a quality relationship that we have with other people. Forgiveness, you know – ‘Please forgive me, and let’s move on.’ Because that’s the way, I believe, that you get right with yourself… Because once I’m willing to see myself as a human being who makes mistakes and is trying her best, then I can have true compassion for other people.” – Lisane (24:00)
“Now I’m asking myself some very different questions that are not about ego. They’re about something beyond that, something broader than that. And I say it that way because very often, I had to go through this. When I would ask questions like, ‘What are my values?’, a lot of the values that I had, or I should say the definitions of the values that I had, were chosen out of ego and preference. They were chosen out of, ‘If things are like this, then I feel like life is aligned and life is good.’ And now it’s, ‘Actually, no. Let me look at what are the qualities in me that are part of my essence that, when I bring them out, I’m bringing the value to my life – as opposed to lining things up that feel valuable.’” – Luke (43:08)
Our Guest
Lisane Basquiat is the founder of Shaping Freedom®, a personal growth company that trains individuals on how to gain empowerment through internal congruence and spiritual alignment. She also owns Hera Hub Carlsbad, a female-focused and gender inclusive community, co-working space, and business accelerator. She’s Co-Administer of the Jean-Michel Basquiat Estate, Board Certified by the Association of Integrative Psychology as a Master Practitioner and trainer of Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP), a Master Practitioner of Mental and Emotional Release® (MER) Therapy and Hypnotherapy, a Certified Professional Coach (iPEC graduate), an Accredited Energy Leadership Coach, a Reiki practitioner, and a Certified Advanced Theta Healer.

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52 min
November 29, 2022The Power of Forgiveness and Individuality
“It does start with forgiveness.”
Reggie Walker learned this many years after sustaining trauma and abuse as a child and struggling with his mental health as an adult. He lives his life by the sentiment that forgiveness is at the center of healing. And beyond forgiving others, we have to forgive ourselves.
As the former NFL athlete walks with me today, we discuss how he found alignment after his football career, what it means to put your peace first, and his journey to living a life that’s true to who he is.
His story is one of determination, healing, thoughtfulness, forgiveness, and embracing his own individuality, so join us today as we discover how Reggie found his way to happiness and peace.

In This Episode
(6:53) Reggie unpacks how he began to really chase his own happiness
(10:10) Why sitting with himself helped Reggie prioritize his mental health
(22:33) How to leave people-pleasing behavior behind and define what you truly want/need
(25:33) Making the shift from self-centered to centered-self
(33:37) Why celebrating our own uniqueness and the uniqueness of others helps us become better individuals
(38:42) How embracing forgiveness and pain allowed Reggie to heal
(43:24) The role of the “protector” in our psyche
(49:01) Why we need to break down generational trauma for ourselves and our children
(57:19) There is beauty and joy to be found in our weird little worlds
(1:00:59) Reggie shares his passion for loving others
Notable Quotes
“You gotta love yourself enough to let the protector go. Because if you don’t let the protector go, it’s gonna protect you away from happiness and peace and contentment and fulfillment. And it’s been a constant act of letting that go, and forgiving them, forgiving myself for not sticking out, for not saying this, for not doing that… You understand, hurt people do hurt people. And when you start analyzing and understanding people and having conversations with them, there’s a very logical reason why people do things in their own minds. I might not agree, but in their minds that’s what it is. And that’s okay. Because at this moment in time, if I really want that life that I want to have, I have to let it go.” – Reggie (41:20)
“I recognize I live in my own weird little world. I think we all do, right? We all have our own weird little world that we live in – nobody gets to know it! It’s all up in here, it’s in our bodies, it’s in our minds, right? I know that that’s where I am, and the more that I get to play with that, it’s like I have more fun. I don’t take myself as seriously. I enjoy myself more because I’m not trying to like, ‘Wait, how am I going to put myself out there?’ ‘What’s this going to look like?’ I’ve given up those controls and I’ve like owned the fact that I’ve got some weird stuff going on in my head and occasionally I’ve got some weird stuff coming out of my mouth, and that’s okay! It’s more fun. It’s freeing.” – Luke (57:19)
Our Guest
Reggie Walker is a former NFL athlete and the founder of the Personal Mastery School – a program that helps individuals find themselves, their purpose, and create a plan for their life. After sustaining significant trauma in his childhood and then working to process those experiences as an adult, he found a way to support others on their journey to health and happiness. He’s also a mental, physical, and sexual abuse survivor advocate, Tedx speaker, consultant, connector, and problem solver. He wants to equip others with the skills to win the battle against their biggest enemy – themselves – so they can move with confidence and tenacity towards their life mission.

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1 hr 4 min
November 22, 2022Updating Our Understanding of Masculinity
How do we begin to unpack and update our traditional understanding of masculinity – for ourselves, our friends, our partners, and our children?
Today I’m walking with Bob Conlin – an ontological coach, a Professional Certified Coach with the International Coaching Federation, founder of The Alchemy of Men, and the co-founder of the Living In Love Incubator program – and Brad Golphenee – a Senior EVRYMAN Facilitator and Professional Somatic Coach for Men – to dive into a discussion regarding masculinity, forming healthy relationships, connecting with our emotions, and discovering our purpose.
Both fathers and great men who are committed to holding space for the feelings and experiences of those around them, Brad and Bob offer intimate details and valuable insight into how they became the men they are today.

In This Episode
(0:40) Two threads we’ll follow in today’s episode
(7:29) Brad reveals how leaving his last business allowed him to break a negative cycle
(11:08) The effect men’s groups had on Bob’s unhealthy mindset
(15:39) Why shifting their understanding of identity was challenging
(23:53) How Bob found peace and new possibilities in the unknown
(28:14) Finding the courage to ask for help
(35:32) The importance of finding community and accountability
(41:00) Addressing the daunting questions: “Who am I?” and “What is my purpose?”
(45:38) Leaning into discomfort as we raise our children
(54:00) The energy of being a father
(1:00:14) Bob and Brad discuss purpose
(1:06:02) Closing thoughts on masculinity
Notable Quotes
“To have people to hold me in the highest light and to hold me in new ways is so remarkably important because even those that were close to me, and I see this all the time, my family, even out of love, they would often hold me in old ways. Because that’s what they’re comfortable with, that’s how they know me. So going through very transformative processes and then going back into my old environment, I’m still held in an old way. And so it’s just an important distinction that as we change as men, we need each other to hold ourselves in the highest light possible.” – Brad (42:00)

“When I got to that point, I realized how much help I actually needed. You know, self-sufficient guy, self-proclaimed ‘I don’t need anybody,’ and it really pointed to, wherever I was going, I wasn’t alone. Wherever I wanted to go, I needed an army of people around me to hold me up, lift me up, love me until I could learn to fully love and embrace myself and who I was becoming. And I really think that, that was the hardest lesson I learned was to ask for help… But that was the thing that helped me move through the in-between, the upside down – whatever you want to call it – that time.” – Bob (27:26)

Our Guests
With extensive training and experience as an ontological coach, a Professional Certified Coach with the International Coaching Federation, founder of The Alchemy of Men, and the co-founder of the Living In Love Incubator program, Bob Conlin helps people bring awareness and accountability into action and receive abundance in its many forms.
Brad Golphenee is a Senior EVRYMAN Facilitator and Professional Somatic Coach for Men who has been involved with men's groups for 15 years and professionally working with men for 10 years. Brad holds a BSBA from the University of Denver and has continuing education in Shamanic Studies and Somatic Experiencing for Trauma. Relationships and parenting are topics that Brad loves to process with his client base.

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1 hr 10 min
November 15, 2022Metabolizing Our Stories
“Art can serve as our metabolizer.”
It’s a sentiment that struck me as soon as I heard it, and it’s no surprise that the individual behind this poignant quote is none other than writer, wedding photographer, and storyteller Genevieve Georget.
On today’s walk, Gen joins me to discuss how she became a writer, finding balance as we experience the full range of human emotions, the ways in which stories and narratives can both free and hinder us, how to manage the tendency toward perfectionism, and ultimately to share where she is in what she refers to as possibly her most important piece of work yet.

In This Episode
(3:18) Introduction to our guest, Genevieve Georget
(7:57) How writing and photography influence Gen’s relationship with time
(12:22) Gen recalls a moment that brought perspective
(18:33) How authenticity and intimacy allow us to unburden ourselves
(20:23) What You Don’t See
(27:52) Carrying others’ stories while making space for your own
(32:13) A note about generational trauma and childhood experiences
(39:07) “How do you feel about somebody controlling the narrative of your life?”
(49:20) Intimate and honest confrontation
(56:13) Gen’s current, deeply healing project
(1:01:56) My mindfulness journey and equal empathy
(1:04:30) How storytelling allows for connection
Notable Quotes
“When we do have the strength, it allows us to be that anchor for other people. And to say, ‘I’ve got ya. I can hold this space. I can be here and listen to your story as you let it unfold in front of you and as you take down the veil, as you take down the wall.’ And just open up about ‘This is what I’ve been walking with. This is what’s been on my shoulders.’ It’s an unburdening process, and I think it’s interesting because we talk about art as a metabolizer or others have heard me talk about circling and things like that on this show as well, and to me, I think that’s the beauty of a practice like circling where we can verbalize what it is that we are working to process. And when we can do that in a communal way, it opens something up because it allows more and more people to know ‘I’m not alone.’” – Luke (19:18)

“One of the ways that I am learning to dismantle some of those narratives, and that is an aggressive word, but I think it’s necessary sometimes to take a sledgehammer to some of the stuff that we’ve been carrying around for so long. It’s also a method that we’re starting to use with our children a lot. And it’s by asking the question, ‘What story are you telling yourself about that situation?’ So if one of our kids comes home from school and they’ve had something happen with some friends, the first thing we ask them is, ‘What meaning are you putting to that situation? What’s the story you’re now telling yourself?’ to try to help them, ourselves, recognize that we are only one part of that story. – Gen (44:47)

Our Guest
Genevieve Georget is a writer and photographer from Ottawa, Canada that believes in cultivating space for vulnerability, truth, authenticity, and storytelling. In her last two books, Solace: A Journal of Human Experience (2019) and Her Own Wild Winds (2016), Gen explored grief, pain, love, and inspiration. Solace was also named Ottawa FACES Magazine’s 2020 Book of the Year. Currently working on a healing-centered project, she is finding joy in her life with her husband, kids, and golden retriever.

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Living Untethered: Beyond the Human Predicament by Michael A. Singer
1 hr 7 min
November 08, 2022A Walk with Purpose (Part 2)
In the last episode, Tim and I spoke about our personal journeys with purpose, belonging, taking soul wanders, and how this brings us into this incredible space where nature reflects what truly lies within.
As we continue with Part 2 of our walk with purpose in today’s conversation, we dive deeper into the ancient ritual of a Vision Quest – sharing what this ritual is and what it can reveal.
I’ve been on a personal vision quest with Tim’s guidance and, on this transformative journey of mine, I encountered deep questions with tough to grasp answers. But as I interacted with these questions, so much more than guidance was revealed.
Join me as we step into this vision quest with my walking partner, Tim Corcoran.

In This Episode
(04:58) - What is a vision quest?
(13:36) - The two sides of preparing for a vision quest
(17:00) - What does Life want to do with me?
(18:39) - The grounding mantra of ‘trust the ceremony’
(25:53) - Establishing a conversation with the ancient one
(33:38) - The post-vision quest return
(35:14) - Proper preparation and proper integration before and after the quests
(39:00) - My journey towards peace
(42:51) - “To quest is to go experience the fullness of life.”
(47:53) - The most important changes that take place when we go out in and return from quest
Notable Quotes
“I've used different versions of this phrase before at different parts of my life, ‘trust the process’. But really, I wanted to honor the ceremony, the sacred ceremony I was entering. And so that mantra became to trust the ceremony. I'm gonna connect to my soul, I'm gonna connect to my purpose. I'm gonna connect it by all these intentions of what I wanted out of the process. And then ultimately that was able to fade away so that I could turn and say, I'm gonna trust the ceremony. And it was through the journey itself, through the vision quest that I recognized that the mantra that I came up with had nothing to do, or it didn't only have to do with the vision quest. That's pretty much become my mantra, because I now understand for me, this life is the ceremony. We're in the ceremony right now in this grand experiment. This is the ceremony.” - Luke (18:39)
“I want the fullness of life and if there's darkness in me that I have to face, then so be it. I'll face it. And I think that's a mindset that is appropriate especially for a quest. And it's that willingness, it's that vulnerability, it's that courage that's so important. My hope is for our listeners that maybe this inspires you to find that. Because I do believe we all as human beings have that potential inside of us to face these depths. And it's only in facing our darkness that we'll be able to face our light and yeah, it gets pretty dark, and yeah, it gets pretty bright. In the end, I've never worked with anybody who didn't say that it was worth it.” - Tim (43:20)
Our Guest
Tim Corcoran is the founder of Purpose Mountain, where he offers Nature Based Purpose Guidance to support people with a love for wild nature who feel a deep yearning to discover their purpose. Tim also serves as co-Director of Twin Eagles Wilderness School, an organization he co-founded with his wife in Sandpoint, Idaho in 2005 dedicated to facilitating deep nature connection mentoring, cultural restoration, and inner tracking.

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54 min
November 01, 2022A Walk with Purpose (Part 1)
What is my purpose? What is the meaning of this life?
There are moments when these questions come screaming at me with this tremendous sense of urgency for years. At times, I've had answers to some of these questions, and other times I've struggled greatly when these answers no longer held true.
One of the most recent chapters of this walk that I’ve been on is something that I wanted to share with you in this two-part conversation because it was such an extraordinary experience.
Join me as we unfold this part of my journey with my walking partner for today, Tim Corcoran.

In This Episode
(04:48) - What the Buddha did not know about hunting
(09:14) - Losing my connection with nature
(15:51) - My path with mindfulness, Buddhism, and other related wisdom traditions
(24:09) - Why conversations about purpose have become so prevalent
(32:05) - Belonging is worth investing in
(40:10) - What is a soul wander?
(47:00) - How my hibernation in a cave led to my first intimate experience with a guardian tree
(53:19) - Tim’s story of Grizzly Butte
(1:07:58) - Within your wanders, pay attention to your noticings
(1:14:20) - Tim’s philosophy on healing
Notable Quotes
“Many people are waking up and saying, okay, how can I help? This is not right. Okay sure, I can ascend, I can experience meditation. It's a great break from the craziness and the suffering of the physical world. I've got kids, I have a wife, I have children in my community I care about. What are future generations going to experience? What can I actually give to this? What am I gonna leave behind? ‘It's all temporary, don't worry about it, I'll meet you on the other side’. No, you know, I care about this earth. This earth has helped me, so I love it so much, and I want to leave the best gift I can to this planet. I think more and more people are waking up to that or asking those questions, why the heck am I really here? Is it just random? Was it just an accident? No, there must be a reason why I have taken birth at this time. There must be something I have to offer. That's what I hear from the people I work with, and the people who reach out to me and conversations like this that need that yearning just grows and grows, and so that is hopeful to me.” - Tim (24:45)
“There's something that we are connecting to through those experiences that is either informing or working with our soul to transform us into the path that we're meant to be on. And it's in those moments of balance that we start to connect to that and see what we've been through in a very, very different light. And it opens up something beautiful in us. I love that perspective of the language of minimum amount of healing. Because we're not meant to stay perpetually in that cycle. We're not meant to be perpetually in any cycle, and that's where we don't wanna get lost in the healing. We don't wanna get lost in dreaming of this life. We want to be able to continue. Let's move forward in that dream. Let's be aware that we're dreaming and let's interact with it in a very different way. But as we continue to grow from that place of being, and being able to bring that forward, and pay that forward, and offer that giveaway to others, and we'll heal along the way as we need to continue to because it's gonna happen.” - Luke (1:17:58)
Our Guest
Tim Corcoran is the founder of Purpose Mountain, where he offers Nature Based Purpose Guidance to support people with a love for wild nature who feel a deep yearning to discover their purpose. Tim also serves as co-Director of Twin Eagles Wilderness School, an organization he co-founded with his wife in Sandpoint, Idaho in 2005 dedicated to facilitating deep nature connection mentoring, cultural restoration, and inner tracking.

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1 hr 23 min
October 25, 2022The Audacity to Follow Our Own Path
Some people might view audacity as the willingness to take bold risks, but sometimes, it can also mean being rude or having disrespectful behavior. Isn’t it interesting that this word can be seen as both a positive and negative quality?
In today’s conversation, we explore these moments in our journey where we found the need to be audacious in following our own path, without having that fear of being judged by the people around us.
What does it mean to have that sense of agency? How do we develop that type of connection to it? Join me as I go on this walk with my partners today, Lisa Hopkins, and a familiar voice from Episode 002, Tambre Leighn.

In This Episode
(00:33) - The two primary definitions of audacity
(05:56) - The need for Lisa to be audacious in her journey
(08:10) - How Lisa responded to her sense of agency
(10:35) - Tambre’s experience with audaciousness
(13:56) - How do we connect to our sense of agency?
(16:53) - The energy of needing to be bigger or push beyond
(21:48) - How my inner voice gives me clarity on the path that I should take
(34:18) - Our strengths are exactly where our weaknesses lie
(44:45) - Weaknesses are gifts
(59:21) - The audacity of being in our own path
Notable Quotes
“If you think about your strengths as just part of your toolkit, not about your way of being, and then your weaknesses, weaknesses are gifts because you don't attach them to anything. Strengths, you know what you can do, you know what you're expected to do. So there's this sort of expectation. I mean, have you ever played something and you sort of preface it with, ‘I'm no good at this’ and you have so much fun because you're not attached to being good at it to anyone thinking.I feel like weaknesses are so ripe, they're like seeds that you don't think will grow. So you just toss them out there. And sometimes they do and sometimes they also help nurture, something grows that you didn't know would grow or maybe it actually helps your strength.” - Lisa (44:37)
“If I'm gonna be curious about something, I just can't jump into doing mode because then I’m just, step, action, outcome, re-evaluate, reassess, which will have a little bit of insight, but it doesn't give me the opportunity to take a breath and say, what else can I do? What else can I bring into this moment as far as a different perspective, a creative idea, a different way of looking at this or perhaps even somebody bringing somebody else into the conversation so that I can expand my awareness, my growth, my skills, my insights? I love the idea of embracing what we might consider weaknesses and asking what can I do differently that might give me not only a different outcome in this situation, but going forward, give me more tools to choose from?” - Tambre (43:26)
Our Guests
Lisa Hopkins is an ICF Certified Professional Coach, Energy Leadership Master Practitioner and CORE Performance Dynamics Specialist. She hosts the STOPTIME: Live in the Moment podcast and has a vision to share the power of her coaching work with the entertainment community and beyond by creating safe, mentally & spiritually healthy spaces for all to thrive creatively and become artists of their lives.
Certified professional coach Tambre Leighn is the founder of Well Beyond Ordinary, a consulting company that helps healthcare clients use coaching skills to improve communication, patient engagement, and build trust. Tambre’s work integrating coaching into patient support was inspired by her experience as a caregiver for her late husband.

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1 hr 2 min
October 18, 2022The Space Between Transitions
Have you ever been at that point in your life where everything seems to go well, then all of a sudden, it just doesn’t feel right anymore?
This is something that has come up to me as I was looking back at my journey for the last couple of years. I’m blessed to have a beautiful family, career, business, and a whole lot of opportunities that have helped me along the way.
But once you realize that some of the great things you have in your life aren’t aligned with your purpose anymore, do we have the willingness to let go of it? Do you take the risk of going on another journey not knowing if everything will work out?
These questions led me to connect with my walking partner for today, Corey Blake.

In This Episode
(01:01) - Understanding the journey that I’ve been on for the last couple of years
(03:39) - Approaching purpose as a way of being with my life and the world
(09:43) - Being in a limbo, and why it’s an uncomfortable place for Corey
(13:51) - The disorientation phase of Corey’s journey
(16:51) - Taking our frustration and anger out on the people that are closest to us
(18:57) - Corey’s collisions in life
(23:20) - The ongoing connection to personal development
(26:31) - The transition Corey’s currently walking through
(31:08) - What have I not been willing to admit to myself that I actually need to see?
(38:36) - Learning how to let things fall apart
(41:04) - The empowerment dynamic - the coach, the challenger, and the creator
(46:04) - Why we’re getting trapped in seeing the world
(51:24) - The need to create more space for others to share their story
(1:00:41) - Corey’s water and oak tree imagery
Notable Quotes
“Some of these challenges are so big that they certainly can feel overwhelming and we can't tackle all of them. If we all cared about the thing I care about the most, who would care about all the other things? And they would just fall apart. We have that natural human desire for the thing that matters most to us, to matter to everyone else. The arrogance that I have to look squarely in the face when I’m inclined to rescue that asks me, who am I to think that my solution is appropriate for this person? What if they manifest what’s appropriate for them? What would it look like for me to be a support mechanism for that, so they can become more of themselves as opposed to me thinking they should be more like me?” - Corey (44:12)
“If we have the ability to create more healing and wholing within ourselves, the medicine that that provides to the collective is something that is immeasurable. We’ve got the collective purpose, which is how do we, in any way that we choose to, share that with the world? And then we’ve got this other kind of like, for the sake of humanity healing that we’re doing by working through our journeys in this way. Because that now creates the possibility. Roger Bannister breaks the 4-minute mile after nobody else had ever done it, and then look at the next couple of years and people are breaking it left and right because now it’s a possibility. If we create that healing and wholing within ourselves, even if it’s not published around the world like the 4-minute mile, it creates the energetic possibility now for others. It creates a blueprint, which however we do it, somehow we connect to it.” - Luke (1:07:49)
Our Guest
Corey Blake is the founder and CEO of Round Table Companies (RTC). In 2021, Corey launched Round Table Storytelling Academy, where he focuses on his passion for the deeper sense of belonging that arises within a company culture when employee purpose is connected to organizational purpose.

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1 hr 16 min
October 11, 2022Ease or Easy
How do we navigate between ease and easy?
My walking partner for today, Michelle Bannister, is a former colleague of mine who reached out to me after hearing a few episodes of On This Walk. She spoke about feeling this energy around the difference between ease and easy and we discussed how both have appeared in our lives.
In today’s conversation, Michelle and I dig deeper into that feeling of being comfortable in the chaos, the struggle of keeping things simple, the desire to belong, the importance of self-compassion and forgiveness, and dealing with our inner critic.

In This Episode
(03:37) - The tendency to go to what’s familiar
(07:28) - Michelle’s decision to walk away from her dream job
(11:07) - Being comfortable in the chaos
(12:41) - Paying attention to how things felt
(14:21) - My struggle of keeping things simple
(16:43) - Walking on the edge between ease and easy
(20:54) - The toxic impact of social media
(22:30) - The desire to belong
(27:56) - Self-compassion and forgiveness
(32:02) - Michelle’s acknowledgment of her childhood trauma and the impact it had on her
(38:03) - Dealing with our inner critic
(45:01) - How Michelle’s ‘visual vitamins’ help her attitude and mindset
(50:43) - The practice of attunement and being intentional and present
(57:53) - Trusting the process
Notable Quotes
“I was admitted to a Master’s Program for the fall. This will be my second Master’s and I’m 58 years old. So there’s immediately conflict in my head when I even think about going back for a second Master’s. I can’t even count how many people have gone, ‘You’re what? Why would you wanna do that?’. So the edge for me has been, what do I really want my legacy to be? I have nothing left to prove about myself. And this ties to something you were saying about the difference between head and body. I feel like I've spent my whole life trying to prove something that was going on in my head, stories that I was generating about myself, about what other people had to say about me. And this has nothing to do with that at all. This is a hundred percent heart decision and direction.” - Michelle (15:47)
“I know what it’s like to have to pick myself up off the bathroom floor and to go through different issues in life. And I’ve recognized that actually, not only did I get through them, they got me closer and closer to being true to who I am and living from this central place of who I actually am. And we spend so much time protecting that essential self, that true nature. But it’s the protecting that actually keeps us from getting back to it. And once you go through that, those are the times you’ve been broken up, broken open. But those are the very things that showed me the path to ease and peace. And then I got the confidence through going through that repeated process of building into it to recognize, yeah, I can do life this way. I can do it from the center of who I am and share out from that place. And it's not always gonna be accepted, it's not always gonna be affirmed. And I'm okay with that too.” - Luke (01:00:55)
Our Guest
Michelle Bannister - I am a human mom, dog mom, stepmom, mother figure, spouse, sister, and friend. I am a meditator, writer, coach, teacher and student (formally and informally), retreat facilitator, reluctant entrepreneur, former corporate leader, retired opera singer, trauma survivor, gardener, musician, artist, cook, bird watcher and feeder, runner-turned-walker, traveler, and wanderer. I have realized that contrary to conventional wisdom—which says the longer we’re with people, the better we know them—my loved ones are increasingly mysterious to me as time goes by. This becomes apparent as I slow down long enough to witness their inner worlds as they are revealed.

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1 hr 5 min

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