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On Wisdom

By Charles Cassidy and Igor GrossmannSociety & CultureScienceSocial SciencesPhilosophy
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  • 50: Morality Meets World (with Joshua Greene)

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    Can insights from moral psychology increase donations to more effective charities? Joshua Greene joins Igor and Charles to discuss ventilator allocation and other pandemic-related trolley problems, deep pragmatism, the dual process theory of moral judgement, and the power of the veil of ignorance. Igor gets excited about the role of metacognition for wisdom, Joshua reveals in what contexts we feel more comfortable pushing a fat man off a bridge, and Charles learns that when it comes to unfamiliar moral problems, we should not expect cognitive miracles! Welcome to Episode 50.

    Special Guest: Joshua Greene.

    Links:

    • Giving Multiplier
    — Give to both your favourite charity and a super-effective charity recommended by experts.
  • Joshua Greene's Homepage
  • Moral Tribes: Emotion, Reason, and the Gap Between Us and Them - Joshua Greene (2014) | Book
  • Veil-of-ignorance reasoning favors the greater good - Karen Huang, Joshua D. Greene, Max Bazerman (2019)
  • The Psychology of (In)Effective Altruism - Lucius Caviola, Stefan Schubert, Joshua D. Greene (2021)
  • Talks at Google | Joshua Greene - Moral Tribes: Emotion, Reason, and the Gap Between Us and Them | Joshua Green | Talks at Google
  • Veil of Ignorance | Ethicsunwrapped
  • 58 min
  • 49: Wise Goals (with Ayelet Fishbach)

    What does goal-setting have to do with wisdom and how do we pick wise goals? Ayelet Fishbach joins Igor and Charles to discuss the dangers of moving too swiftly from planning-mode to action-mode, how to compromise across multiple goals, and why we need to rethink our relationships with vegetables! Igor underscores the importance of thinking of wisdom as a process rather than an outcome, Ayelet encourages us to change our situation rather than ourselves, and Charles learns the benefits of approaching a choice as if you’d make it 100 times. Welcome to Episode 49.

    Special Guest: Ayelet Fishback.

    Links:

    • Ayelet Fishbach's Personal Website
  • Get It Done: Surprising Lessons from the Science of Motivation - by Ayelet Fishbach
  • Behavioral Science Authors Series - Ayelet Fishbach
  • We’re Good at Motivating Others, but What About Ourselves? | Knowledge at Wharton
  • Good Habits, Bad Habits: A Conversation with Wendy Wood | Behavioral Scientist
  • Wisdom is a social-ecological rather than person-centric phenomenon | Science Direct - Grossmann, Dorfman, Oakes (2020)
  • 48 min
  • 48: A Joyous Journey from Black-and-White to Grey (with Tom Gilovich)

    Is "the spectrum" a more helpful way to think about the world than "categories"? Tom Gilovich joins Igor and Charles to discuss the perils of black-and-white thinking, the evolving data on the hot hand phenomenon, the science of regret, why foxes are wiser than hedgehogs, and the freedom that comes from learning that we are of less interest to other people than we think. Igor considers the limits of psychological nudging in tackling society’s structural problems, Tom shares the perspective that leads him to be so unrelentingly joyful, and Charles learns that even scientists have to work hard to avoid being typecast. Welcome to Episode 48.

    Special Guest: Tom Gilovich.

    Links:

    • Tom Gilovich's Page | Cornell University
  • Gilovich Judgment and Belief Lab
  • The Wisest One in the Room: How You Can Benefit from Social Psychology's Most Powerful Insights (Tom Gilovich and Lee Ross)
  • How We Know What Isn't So: The Fallibility of Human Reason in Everyday Life - Gilovich
  • The i-Frame and the s-Frame: How Focusing on Individual-Level Solutions Has Led Behavioral Public Policy Astray - Chater, Loewenstein (2022)
  • 49 min
  • 47: Charting Pandemic Waters: A Common Wisdom Model for Uncertain Times (with Howard Nusbaum) - Rebroadcast

    (First Broadcast - 21st June 2020)

    What is the value of wisdom in the time of the global pandemic? Does the community of behavioural scientists studying wisdom agree on anything about the nature of wisdom? Can we say what we now know about wisdom and, conversely, what do we know we don’t yet know? Howard Nusbaum joins Igor and Charles to discuss the recently assembled Toronto Wisdom Task Force and the resulting Common Wisdom Model, meta-cognition, the thorny issue of moral-grounding, and sage advice regarding how to measure wisdom in the lab. Igor stresses the importance of building solid theoretical foundations for the field in the context of the pandemic, Howard reflects on the viability of evil wisdom, and Charles learns that we had better pay close attention today to the values we program into the decision-making robots of tomorrow.

    Special Guest: Howard Nusbaum.

    Links:

    • Original Broadcast: Episode 29 - Charting Pandemic Waters: A Common Wisdom Model for Uncertain Times (with Howard Nusbaum)
  • The Science of Wisdom (AEON)
  • The Science of Wisdom in a Polarized World: Knowns and Unknowns: Psychological Inquiry: Vol 31, No 2
  • A Common Model Is Essential for a Cumulative Science of Wisdom: Psychological Inquiry: Vol 31, No 2
  • University of Chicago Center for Practical Wisdom | Center for Practical Wisdom | The University of Chicago
  • Wisdom in Context - Igor Grossmann, 2017
  • Toronto Wisdom Task Force Meeting 2019 (edited) - YouTube
  • AI Open Letter - Future of Life Institute
  • 1 hr 3 min
  • 46: Antifragility, Gut Feelings, and the Myth of Pure Evil (with Jonathan Haidt) - Rebroadcast

    (First Broadcast - 4th November 2019)

    Does that which doesn’t kill you make you weaker? Should we always follow our emotions? Is life a battle between good people and bad people? And critically, what might the adoption of these three popular, but unwise, ideas be doing to a rising generation of young adults? Jonathan Haidt joins Igor and Charles to discuss the three great untruths of modern life, the nature of antifragility, the 'great awokening,' rising violence on US university campuses, and the origin story of the Heterodox Academy. Igor suggests that diversity can help some projects while hindering others, Jon shares his ultimate conflict-resolving ninja skill, and Charles learns that conservative voters come in radically different shapes and sizes.

    Special Guest: Jonathan Haidt.

    Links:

    • Original Broadcast: Episode 23 - Antifragility, Gut Feelings, and the Myth of Pure Evil (with Jonathan Haidt)
  • Jon Haidt's Home Page
  • Why the Past 10 Years of American Life Have Been Uniquely Stupid - The Atlantic
  • Haidt's writings and materials on the effects of social media on teens and democracies
  • Reparations, systemic racism, and white Democrats’ new racial liberalism (On the Great Awokening) - Vox
  • Heterodox Academy
  • The Coddling of the American Mind
  • Predictors and consequences of intellectual humility - T. Porter, A. Elnakouri, E. Meyers, T. Shibayama, E Jayawickreme, I. Grossmann (2022) - Nature Reviews
  • Jonathan Haidt: Can a divided America heal? | TED Talk
  • A Conflict of Visions - Thomas Sowell
  • How to Win Friends and Influence People - Dale Carnegie
  • More in Common - Publications - The Perception Gap / Hidden Tribes
  • The Authoritarian Dynamic - Karen Stenner
  • E Pluribus Unum: Diversity and Community in the Twenty-first Century - Robert D. Putnam
  • The emotional dog and its rational tail: a social intuitionist approach to moral judgment - Haidt (2001)
  • The Coddling of the American Mind - International Coddling
  • World Happiness Report 2019 - Chapter 5: The Sad State of Happiness in the United States and the Role of Digital Media - Jean M. Twenge
  • The Happiness Hypothesis: Putting Ancient Wisdom to the Test of Modern Science: Amazon.co.uk: Jonathan Haidt: 8601300074849: Books
  • The Righteous Mind: Why Good People are Divided by Politics and Religion: Amazon.co.uk: Jonathan Haidt: 0884607571077: Books
  • 59 min
  • 45: Wisdom at Work (with Barry Schwartz) - Rebroadcast

    (First Broadcast - 28th December 2018)

    Can we design our workplaces to generate wiser behaviour? Why do we work anyway, and would we still work if we didn’t get paid? Do employers even want their employees to develop wisdom? Barry Schwartz joins Igor and Charles to discuss how Aristotle’s Practical Wisdom applies in the 21st Century, the reasons why we work, idea technology, the unintended consequences of rules-based systems, and the moral dangers and limits of incentives. Igor proposes the idea of algorithm-based wise machines, Barry suggests companies hire for character rather than skill, and Charles learns why, in wiser work places, the cost of free-riders may well be a price worth paying.

    Special Guest: Barry Schwartz.

    Links:

    • Original Broadcast: Episode 11 - Wisdom at Work (with Barry Schwartz)
  • Our Loss of Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)
  • Using Our Practical Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)
  • The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (TED Talk)
  • Practical Wisdom (Book) - Barry Schwartz & Kenneth Sharpe
  • Why We Work - Barry Schwartz (Book)
  • The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (Book)
  • Rethinking Work - Barry Schwartz (New York Times)
  • 1 hr
  • 43: Invisible to Ourselves: A Life of a Psychological Scientist (with Richard Nisbett)

    A disturbing thought - might it be impossible for us to directly observe the workings of our minds? Richard Nisbett joins Igor and Charles to discuss a life lived on the cutting edge of behavioral sciences in the second part of the 20th Century. He shares tales from his groundbreaking research into our faulty mindware, discussing various biases, cultural differences in cognitive processes, our inability to directly observe our mental processes, and why job interviews are not only unhelpful but potentially harmful to our ability to hire the best person for the job. Igor is keen to learn about the human beings behind some of the 20th Century’s academic idols in social psychology like Daniel Kahneman, Amos Tversky and Lee Ross, Richard explains why important work and interesting work are not necessarily the same thing, and Charles struggles to make sense of when we do and don’t intervene to help strangers in peril. Welcome to Episode 43.

    Special Guest: Richard Nisbett.

    Links:

    • Richard Nisbett's Homepage
  • World After Covid - Richard Nisbett Interview
  • Thinking: A Memoir
  • The Psychology of Thinking - with Richard Nisbett - Royal Institution Lecture (2016)
  • Telling more than we can know: Verbal reports on mental processes - Nisbett & Wilson (1977)
  • The influence of culture: holistic versus analytic perception - Nisbett & Miyamoto (2005)
  • Intelligence: New findings and theoretical developments - Nisbett, Aronson, Blair, Dickens, Flynn, Halpern, Turkheimer (2012).
  • 1 hr 12 min
  • 42: Reflections on Wisdom in the World after Covid
    Which kind of wisdom will people need to master to overcome major negative societal and/or psychological changes after the pandemic?

    In the last episode of the World After Covid miniseries, Igor and Charles share and discuss responses from 57 of the world's leading behavioral and social scientists, collected as part of the World After Covid project. Four final responses are selected, covering themes of big picture focus on what's important, shared humanity, long-term orientation, and political structural change in the midst of the pandemic. Igor reflects on how the immediate context can dramatically influence even experts' forecasts, and Charles is forced to question his cherished belief that people are ultimately good.

    Featuring:

    Barry Schwartz, Emeritus Professor of Psychology at Swarthmore College and a visiting Professor at the Haas School of Business at Berkeley
    Nicholas Christakis, Sterling Professor of Social and Natural Science at Yale University
    Anand Menon, Professor of European Politics and Foreign Affairs at King’s College London
    Michael Bond, Cross-cultural social psychologist with focus on locating Chinese interpersonal processes in a multi-cultural space

    Links:

    • World After Covid site
  • Igor Grossmann's homepage
  • — interactive visualizations and analysis on the World After Covid project
  • Expert Predictions of Societal Change: Insights from the World after COVID Project - Grossmann, Twardus, Varnum, Jayawickreme, McLevey (2021, in press)
  • Everyone Was Wrong on the Pandemic’s Societal Impact: Foreign Policy - Varnum, Hutcherson, Grossmann (2021)
  • Estimating societal effects of COVID-19 - Hutcherson, Sharpinsky, Varnum, Rotella, Wormley, Tay, Grossmann (2021, preprint)
  • How Life Could Get Better (or Worse) After COVID (berkeley.edu)
  • Words of wisdom: 4 tips from experts on how to endure until the COVID-19 pandemic ends (The Conversation)
  • Barry Schwartz Interview
  • — full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
  • Nicholas Christakis Interview
  • — full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
  • Anand Menon Interview
  • — full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
  • Michael Bond Interview
  • — full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
    38 min
  • 41: Wisdom for Negative Consequences (Pt. I) - Social Support, Sympathy & Compassion, Acknowledging Uncertainty, and Balancing Diverse Interests
    Which kind of wisdom will people need to master to overcome major negative societal and/or psychological changes after the pandemic?

    Igor and Charles share and discuss responses from 57 of the world's leading behavioral and social scientists, collected as part of the World After Covid project. Each episode, four responses are selected. This time, the conversation covers themes of social support, sympathy & compassion, acknowledging uncertainty, and balancing diverse interests in the midst of the pandemic. Igor points out that humanity has a greater capacity for accepting and managing uncertainty than we might realize, and Charles is intrigued by the often-overlooked benefits of interactions with strangers.

    Featuring:

    Katie McLaughlin, John L. Loeb Associate Professor of the Social Sciences at Harvard University
    Barbara Fredrickson, Kenan Distinguished Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
    Dilip Jeste, Distinguished Professor of Psychiatry and Neurosciences at University of California, San Diego
    Valerie Tiberius, Paul W. Frenzel Chair in Liberal Arts and Professor of Philosophy at the University of Minnesota

    Links:

    • World After Covid site
  • Igor Grossmann's homepage
  • — interactive visualizations and analysis on the World After Covid project
  • Expert Predictions of Societal Change: Insights from the World after COVID Project - Grossmann, Twardus, Varnum, Jayawickreme, McLevey (2021, in press)
  • Everyone Was Wrong on the Pandemic’s Societal Impact: Foreign Policy - Varnum, Hutcherson, Grossmann (2021)
  • Estimating societal effects of COVID-19 - Hutcherson, Sharpinsky, Varnum, Rotella, Wormley, Tay, Grossmann (2021, preprint)
  • How Life Could Get Better (or Worse) After COVID (berkeley.edu)
  • Words of wisdom: 4 tips from experts on how to endure until the COVID-19 pandemic ends (The Conversation)
  • Katie McLaughlin Interview
  • — full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
  • Barbara Fredrickson Interview
  • — full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
  • Dilip Jeste Interview
  • — full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
  • Valerie Tiberius Interview
  • — full interview and transcript on the World After Covid site
    36 min

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