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On Wisdom

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  • Episode 20: The Science of Awe (with Dacher Keltner)

    What exactly is ‘awe’ and does it bring us, as individuals or as a society, any benefit? Dacher Keltner joins Igor and Charles to discuss why Canadians feel differently about awe than the Chinese, how to take an ‘awe walk’, why emotions vary across historical time, and the importance of experiencing diverse emotions and how to balance them, while the 'Dacher-Guesses-Emotions' game reveals the alarmingly fine line between disgust and desire. Igor digs into controversies over different theories of emotion, Dacher talks of inequality and elation as the new frontiers of social psychology, and Charles learns that awe may play a key role in the very process of scientific discovery itself. Welcome to Episode 20.

    Special Guest: Dacher Keltner.

    Links:

    • Dacher Keltner | UC Psych
  • Greater Good: The Science of a Meaningful Life
  • Berkeley Social Interaction Laboratory
  • Mapping Emotion - Alan Cowen
  • Dacher Keltner: Why Awe Is Such an Important Emotion - YouTube
  • The Science of Happiness Podcast | Greater Good
  • Approaching awe, a moral, spiritual, and aesthetic emotion - Keltner & Haidt (2003)
  • Awe and Scientific Explanation - Valdesolo, Park & Gottlieb (2016)
  • Awe as a scientific emotion - Gottlieb, Keltner, Lombrozo (2018)
  • Awe, the Small Self, and Prosocial Behavior - PIff, Dietze, Feinberg, Stancato, Keltner (2015)
  • Awe and humility. - PubMed - NCBI - Stellar, gordon, Anderson, Piff, McNeil, Keltner (2018)
  • Awe in nature heals: Evidence from military veterans, at-risk youth, and college students. - PsycNET - Anderson, Monroy, Keltner (2018)
  • Emotional complexity: Clarifying definitions and cultural correlates. - PsycNET - Grossmann, Huynh, Ellsworth (2016)
  • Wise reasoning benefits from emodiversity, irrespective of emotional intensity. - PsycNET - Grossmann, Oakes, Santos (2019)
  • TEDxBerkeley (On Compassion) - Dacher Keltner
  • An Awe Walk in Muir Woods - Mindful
  • Why Do We Feel Awe? | Greater Good
  • Exploring the powerful emotion of awe: How it can be awe-some and aw-ful | CBC Radio
  • Jennifer Stellar: How Culture Shapes the Experience of Awe - YouTube
  • Lani Shiota: How Awe Transforms the Body and Mind - YouTube
  • Patterns of Cognitive Appraisal in Emotion - Smith & Ellsworth
  • The Power Paradox: How We Gain and Lose Influence: Dacher Keltner: 9781594205248: Amazon.com: Books
  • Born to Be Good: The Science of a Meaningful Life: Dacher Keltner: 8601401183044: Amazon.com: Books
  • The Compassionate Instinct: The Science of Human Goodness: Dacher Keltner, Jason Marsh, Jeremy Adam Smith: 9780393337280: Amazon.com: Books
  • 59 min
  • Episode 19: The Individual and The Culture (with Adam Grant)

    Can an individual really change a culture? Adam Grant joins Igor and Charles to discuss cultures of non-conformity and giving in the workplace, the perils of cognitive entrenchment, the critical role of culture carriers, and why we should be managing our attention rather than our time. Igor delights in learning of the astoundingly high frequency of dancers among Nobel prize winners, Adam suggests that moral arguments still trump bottom-line arguments in the boardroom, and Charles learns that the secret route to culture-change might be found in asking your boss for advice. Welcome to Episode 19.

    Special Guest: Adam Grant.

    Links:

    • Adam Grant | Books, Podcast, TED Talks, Newsletter, Articles
  • Are you a giver or a taker? | Adam Grant - TED Talk
  • The surprising habits of original thinkers | Adam Grant - TED Talk
  • Adam Grant - The New York Times Column
  • In the Company of Givers and Takers - Harvard Business Review
  • WorkLife with Adam Grant, a TED podcast
  • 31 min
  • Episode 18: The End of the World is Nigh: Polarised Tribes, Passionate Words, and the Partisan Brain (with Jay Van Bavel)

    How did politics get so damn polarised? Jay Van Bavel joins Igor and Charles to discuss political polarisation, the partisan brain, the inexorable rise of superheroes in dark times, the misperceptions of polarisation levels, and how to reach out to other tribes. Igor highlights the partisanship-transcending benefits of a Watchmen-style alien invasion, Jay proposes the judicious use of ‘off-ramps’ when engaging with loved-ones from across the political divide, and Charles learns that even the abstract purity of Mathematics is not immune from the tentacles of partisanship when guns are involved. Welcome to Episode 18.

    Special Guest: Jay Van Bavel.

    Links:

    • Social Perception and Evaluation Lab
  • The dangers of the partisan brain | Jay Van Bavel | TEDxSkoll - YouTube
  • The Partisan Brain: An Identity-Based Model of Political Belief - ScienceDirect
  • Emotion shapes the diffusion of moralized content in social networks - Brady, Wills, Jost, Tucker and Van Bavel (2016)
  • An Ideological Asymmetry in the Diffusion of Moralized Content on Social Media Among Political Leaders - Brady, Wills, Burkart, Jost, Van Bavel (2018)
  • How to go viral: stick to your morals but add a hint of emotion | WIRED UK
  • What Brexit can teach us about the psychology of fear - Vox
  • Letters to Young Scientists | Science | AAAS
  • 1 hr 4 min
  • Episode 17: The Metaphysics of Email and The Perils of Productivity (with Oliver Burkeman)

    Our current productivity culture appears to peddle a false promise: If we can just get better organised, we really can do everything - no tough life choices or trade-offs need to be made! Guardian journalist and author Oliver Burkeman joins Igor and Charles to discuss the ironic effects of the pursuit of productivity, the inbox zero phenomenon, the futile denial of limitations, the Jevons paradox, Keynes’ concerns about a future society drowning in leisure time, Nietzsche’s suspicions regarding our beloved busyness, the social complexities of sending back a poorly made coffee, and the importance of living a life that is larger than politics. Igor wonders if the ‘slow-food’ philosophy can be extended to start a ‘slow-work’ movement in social and medical sciences to help address replication concerns, Oliver explains why he sat on the London underground loudly calling out the names of approaching stations to a carriage full of strangers, and Charles reveals how a ‘free-coffees-for-nice-customers’ policy can badly backfire, particularly if your customers are British. Welcome to Episode 17.

    Special Guest: Oliver Burkeman.

    Links:

    • Oliver Burkeman | The Guardian
  • Oliver Burkeman | The Antidote
  • Oliver Burkeman: The Negative Path to Happiness and Success - YouTube
  • Supressing the 'white bears' (American Psychological Association) - Daniel Wegner's Theory of 'Ironic Processes'
  • Why time management is ruining our lives | Oliver Burkeman | Technology | The Guardian
  • How to stop fighting against time. | Oliver Burkeman | TEDxUniversityofNicosia - YouTube
  • Inbox Zero: What is Inbox Zero and is Zero Inbox Possible in 2019?
  • The Efficiency Dilemma | The New Yorker (The Jevons Paradox)
  • How the news took over reality | News | The Guardian
  • Robert B. Talisse | Philosophy Department | Vanderbilt University
  • 1 hr 3 min
  • Episode 16: Beware the Intelligence Trap! (with David Robson)

    Do highly intelligent people actually take better decisions in their daily lives than everyone else? And if not, what’s missing from our picture of what it means to be ‘smart’? Can you be highly intelligent, yet flunk a rationality test? And rather than noise to be ignored, might our emotions help us make decisions that are actually more rational? David Robson joins Igor and Charles to discuss intelligence traps, Terman’s Termites, the Monte Carlo fallacy, Damasio’s Somatic Marker hypothesis, the competitive humility of the start-up culture, and the ‘brutal pessimism’ baked in to the dark history of the Intelligence test. Igor wrangles with the challenge of convincing leaders of the merits of intellectual humility in a culture obsessed with certainty, David advocates for widespread cognitive inoculations, and Charles learns that butterflies in the stomach after a date may mean love, but also may mean gastric flu. Welcome to Episode 16.

    Special Guest: David Robson.

    Links:

    • David Robson – Exploring the human brain, body and behaviour.
  • The Intelligence Trap – David Robson
  • Intelligence — Robert J. Sternberg
  • Alfred Binet and the History of IQ Testing
  • The Vexing Legacy of Lewis Terman | STANFORD magazine
  • Five Minutes with Keith E. Stanovich, Richard F. West, and Maggie E. Toplak | The MIT Press
  • Rational and Irrational Thought: The Thinking That IQ Tests Miss - Scientific American
  • The Somatic Marker Hypothesis and the Possible Functions of the Prefrontal Cortex: Damasio, Everitt and Bishop (1996)
  • Emotional intelligence and how emotions are 'made' | WIRED UK
  • Can We Improve Predictions? Q&A with Philip "Superforecasting" Tetlock - Scientific American Blog Network
  • The Debunking Handbook: now freely available for download
  • The Fine Art of Baloney Detection: Carl Sagan
  • Exploring Solomon’s Paradox: Self-Distancing Eliminates the Self-Other Asymmetry in Wise Reasoning About Close Relationships in Younger and Older Adults - Igor Grossmann, Ethan Kross, 2014
  • 1 hr
  • Episode 15: Wisdom, Bullshit & Beliefs (with Gordon Pennycook)

    ‘Wholeness quiets infinite phenomena?’ Does it, really?! Why do some people fall for pseudo-profound bullshit and others don’t? When we share fake news stories, is this because we're motivated to think they're real, or because we don't bother to think at all? And why do scientists fight tooth-and-nail over the mechanisms involved, such as “System I vs. System II”, “Fast vs. Slow” and other frameworks? Gordon Pennycook joins Igor and Charles to discuss the critical distinction between a liar and a bullshitter, the cognitive reflection test, the random Deepak Chopra quote generator, the Ig Nobel prize, motivated reasoning, climate change beliefs, academic turf wars among dual process theorists, and how to stop yourself from compulsively retweeting fake news. Igor suggests that Gord only thought of studying bullshit after disbelief at one of Igor’s early talks, Gord reminds us that even the most enlightened social media platforms are in no hurry to help people STOP sharing news, and Charles unexpectedly finds common ground with the Chinese government. Welcome to Episode 15.

    Special Guest: Gord Pennycook.

    Links:

    • Gordon Pennycook's Site
  • On Bullshit - Harry G. Frankfurt (2005)
  • On the Reception and Detection of Pseudoprofound Bullshit - Pennycook, Cheyne, Barr, Koehler, Fugelsang (2015)
  • Random Deepak Chopra Quote Generator - Wisdom of Chopra
  • Ig Nobel Prize Ceremony 2016 - Video
  • Opinion | Why Do People Fall for Fake News? - The New York Times
  • People Furthest Apart on Climate Views Are Often the Most Educated - Scientific American (2017)
  • Lazy, not biased: Susceptibility to partisan fake news is better explained by lack of reasoning than by motivated reasoning - Pennycook & Rand (2018)
  • Everyday Consequences of Analytic Thinking - Pennycook, Fugelsang, Koehler (2015)
  • The Mythical Number Two - Melnikoff & Bargh (2018)
  • The Mythical DualProcess Typology Gordon Pennycook, De Neys, Evans, Stanovich, Thompson (2018)
  • 46 min
  • Episode 14: Wisdom & Social Norms (with Michele Gelfand)

    Is it wiser for a society to be ‘tight’ – strictly enforcing social rules, or ‘loose’ – in which social rule-breaking barely raise an eyebrow? What do social norms have to do with a sense of threat? And might wise leaders have worked out how to dynamically calibrate the tightness or looseness of their organisations as the situation demands? Michele Gelfand joins Igor and Charles to discuss the role of threat in ‘tight vs loose’ societies, the goldilocks principle, ‘real vs perceived’ threat’s in Trump’s America, autocratic recidivism, rum-fuelled meetings, transgressive hand puppets, and the case for recalibrating the internet. Igor reflects on the tight-loose contradictions at the beating heart of the Disney Corporation, Michele cautions against ‘flipping-off’ drivers in the honour culture of the southern states, and Charles makes peace with his inner spirit muppet, Kermit the frog. Welcome to Episode 14.

    Special Guest: Michele Gelfand.

    Links:

    • Michele Gelfand Homepage
  • The Tight-Loose Quiz - Mindset Quiz: How Tight or Loose Are You? (michelegelfand.com)
  • Rule Makers, Rule Breakers: How Tight and Loose Cultures Wire Our World - Michele Gelfand (Book)
  • Differences Between Tight and Loose Cultures: A 33-Nation Study - Gelfand et al (2011)
  • The Secret Life of Social Norms - Michele Gelfand (TEDxPaloAltoSalon talk)
  • Culture as the menacing force behind today’s crazy politics - Michele Gelfand (The Economist, 2019)
  • Here’s the science behind the Brexit vote and Trump’s rise - Michele Gelfand (The Guardian, 2018)
  • An upper-class mindset doesn’t make you classy - Michele Gelfand & Jesse Harrington (Boston Globe, 2018)
  • The Self and Social Behavior in Differing Cultural Contexts - Triandis (1989)
  • Horizontal and Vertical Dimensions of Individualism and Collectivism: A Theoretical and Measurement Refinement - Singelis, Triandis, Bhawuk, Gelfand (1995)
  • A theory of individualism and collectivism - Triandis & Gelfand (2012)
  • Dimensionalizing Cultures: The Hofstede Model in Context - Hofstede (2011)
  • A Theory of Cultural Value Orientations: Explication and Applications - Schwartz (2006)
  • Effects of Cultural Tightness and Collectivism on Self-Concept and Causal Attributions - Carpenter (2000)
  • Misperceptions about immigration and support for redistribution - Alesina, Miano, Stantcheva (2018)
  • We Need a High Wall With a Big Gate - Friedman (New York Times, 2018)
  • 1 hr
  • Episode 13: Can Wisdom be Taught?

    Can, or even should wisdom be taught at school? Would teaching about wisdom in the classroom even translate into wiser behaviour? And might learning about wise historical figures in school actually decrease the likelihood of students behaving more wisely? Igor and Charles tinker with the nuts and bolts of a speculative wisdom curriculum, discussing the stark limits of formal ethics classes, future technological tools to help identify when wise reasoning is necessary, and the counterproductive impact of presenting wise figures out of context. Igor commends Yoda for wisely encouraging Luke to share his failures, and alerts us to the dangers of turning sages into saints, while Charles struggles to acquire the wisdom necessary to know when wisdom is necessary. Welcome to Episode 13.

    Links:

    • A pathway for wisdom-focused education - Huynh, Grossmann (2018)
  • Wisdom and how to cultivate it: Review of emerging evidence for a constructivist model of wise thinking - Grossmann (2018)
  • Teaching for Wisdom: Cross-cultural Perspectives on Fostering Wisdom - Ferrari, Potworowski (2008)
  • Why Schools Should Teach for Wisdom: The Balance Theory of Wisdom in Educational Settings - Sternberg (2001)
  • 'From Jerusalem to Jericho': A Study of Situational and Dispositional Variables in Helping Behavior - Darley, Batson (1973)
  • Construal-Level Theory of Psychological Distance - Trope, Liberman (2010)
  • Yoda & Luke - The Last Jedi (2017)
  • The Jigsaw Classroom
  • 53 min
  • Episode 12: Social and Emotional Aging (with Laura Carstensen)

    Life expectancy increased more in the 20th century than in the entire prior history of humanity combined. With many more of us now getting the opportunity to live into old age, what do we have to look forward to? Do our social and emotional lives degrade in step with our physical bodies as we age, or do we in fact get much happier as we get older? How does the sense of ‘time-left’ impact our wisdom, behaviour and priorities? Laura Carstensen joins Igor and Charles to discuss individual and societal aspects of human aging. We focus on the implications and opportunities of recent extraordinary gains in life expectancy, the socio-emotional selectivity theory, the positivity effect, the thorny issue of increasing retirement age, and the surprising role of time-horizons in how we choose to spend our time. Igor alerts us to the cultural differences and the positive impact old people have on a work team’s productivity, Laura reassures us that no-one ever wants to repeat their twenties, and Charles learns of the dangers of young people trying to think like old people as a route to happiness. Welcome to Episode 12.

    Special Guest: Laura Carstensen.

    Links:

    • Stanford Center on Longevity
  • Older People are Happier - Laura Carstensen (TED Talk)
  • A Long Bright Future - Laura Carstensen (Book)
  • Redesigning Long Life: Uncommon Approaches for Unprecedented Challenges - Laura Carstensen (Stanford Big Data talk)
  • Socioemotional Selectivity Theory and the Regulation of Emotion in the Second Half of Life - Carstensen, Fung, Charles (2003)
  • Integrating cognitive and emotion paradigms to address the paradox of aging - Carstensen (2018)
  • Taking time seriously. A theory of socioemotional selectivity - Carstensen, Isaacowitz, Charles (1999)
  • The influence of a sense of time on human development - Carstensen (2006)
  • Emotional experience improves with age: evidence based on over 10 years of experience sampling - Carstensen, Turan, Scheibe, Ram, Ersner-Hershfield, Samanez-Larkin, Brooks, Nesselroade (2011)
  • Psychological Perspectives on Successful Aging: The Model of Selective Optimization with Compensation - Baltes P, Baltes M (1990)
  • A cultural perspective on emotional experiences across the life span - Grossmann, Karasawa, Kan, Kitayama (2014)
  • 1 hr 1 min
  • Episode 11: Wisdom at Work (with Barry Schwartz)

    Can we design our workplaces to generate wiser behaviour? Why do we work anyway, and would we still work if we didn’t get paid? Do employers even want their employees to develop wisdom? Barry Schwartz joins Igor and Charles to discuss how Aristotle’s Practical Wisdom applies in the 21st Century, the reasons why we work, idea technology, the unintended consequences of rules-based systems, and the moral dangers and limits of incentives. Igor proposes the idea of algorithm-based wise machines, Barry suggests companies hire for character rather than skill, and Charles learns why, in wiser work places, the cost of free-riders may well be a price worth paying. Welcome to Episode 11.

    Special Guest: Barry Schwartz.

    Links:

    • Our Loss of Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)
  • Using Our Practical Wisdom - Barry Schwartz (TED talk)
  • The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (TED Talk)
  • Practical Wisdom (Book) - Barry Schwartz & Kenneth Sharpe
  • Why We Work - Barry Schwartz (Book)
  • The Paradox of Choice - Barry Schwartz (Book)
  • Rethinking Work - Barry Schwartz (New York Times)
  • 59 min

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