Brandon and Dan start off trying to make a good idea from a bad one then turn the topic of their conversation to their convention experiences and their journey to getting published through the convention scene.

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Can be listened to almost everywhere podcasts can be found.

Produced by Adam Horne

Sound engineering and editing by Daniel Thompson