Welcome to our Open Lines discussion program for Dec. 1, 2024. I opened up with a fundraising appeal as we are now fundraising to support The Space Show for the new year, 2025. Please listen and do support us as we are listener supported live broadcast space radio. Donating details are part of our discussion & in the upper right corner of our home page, www.thespaceshow.com. We covered many topics in today's program starting with a lengthy call with Dr. Doug about two of his projects, then what to do about SLS and when. The SLS part of the discussion went on for the rest of the program and dominated what other callers talked about. Different ideas and time lines for retiring SLS were mentioned along with my estimation that it would be here for quite a while. Listen to my comments to hear why I said that. Please review the complete review of the program when it appears at wwww.thespaceshow.com for this date, Sunday, Dec. 1, 2024.