Oral Argument

Oral Argument

By Joe Miller and Christian TurnerSociety & CultureEducationPhilosophy
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Oral Argument episodes

  • Episode 197: LARPing

    We talk about LARPing, emotions, meaning, exam writing, grading, happiness, and other things.

    • Lawrence S. Krieger and Kennon M. Sheldon, What Makes Lawyers Happy? A Data-Driven Prescription to Redefine Professional Success
    • 1 hr 28 min
    • Episode 196: It at Least Exists

      Is the common law efficient? Richard Posner, among many others, has argued that it is, perhaps even without judges ever themselves focusing on that goal. Daniel Sokol joins us to discuss how understanding law as a platform, like modular and open-source software platforms, helps to see how some areas of the law might indeed become more efficient over time while others might not.

      • Daniel Sokol's faculty profile and writing
      • Daniel Sokol, Rethinking the Efficiency of the Common Law
      • Special Guest: Daniel Sokol.

        1 hr 17 min
      • Episode 195: Based

        We dip back into the mailbag to discuss verdicts, unpublished opinions, "based off," canons and anti-canons, and more.

        1 hr 20 min
      • Episode 194: Topoi

        With Zahr Said and Jessica Silbey, we discuss new narrative forms, their setting, and their influence on law and legal education. How do the natures of podcasts, twitter, fake news, and deep fakes affect the way we experience culture together and how do they construct that culture and our legal culture?

        • Zahr Said's faculty profile and writing
        • Jessica Silbey's faculty profile and writing
        • Zahr Said and Jessica Silbey, Narrative Topoi in the Digital Age
        • Ryan Calo, Digital Market Manipulation
        • Daniel Solove, Privacy and Power: Computer Databases and Metaphors for Information Privacy
        • Special Guests: Jessica Silbey and Zahr Said.

          1 hr
        • Episode 193: A Giant Thunderstorm

          Fast on the heels of her last appearance, Carissa Hessick joins us to talk about corpus linguistics, which means... well, we debate this, but, generally, the use of computer-based methods to draw inferences from large databases of texts. What is this enterprise? How can and should it be used to answer legal questions? What does it mean to mean something? These questions, thunder, sense, nonsense, and a continued delving into Joe's pscyhe all feature in this episode.

          • Carissa Hessick’s faculty profile and writing
          • Carissa Byrne Hessick, Corpus Linguistics and the Criminal Law
          • Lawrence Solum, Legal Theory Lexicon: Corpus Linguistics
          • James Phillips, Daniel Ortner, and Thomas Lee, Corpus Linguistics and Original Public Meaning: A New Tool to Make Originalism More Empirical
          • Special Guest: Carissa Hessick.

            1 hr 20 min
          • Episode 192: Precisification

            At long last, we discuss originalism with one of its foremost proponents, Lawrence Solum. In this conversation, we focus on Larry's recent effort to identify what constitutes originalism as a category of interpretive theories and what distinguishes it from other theories, including living constitutionalism.

            This episode's links:

            • Larry Solum's faculty profile and writing
            • Legal Theory Blog (see also Larry's very helpful Legal Theory Lexicon)
            • Lawrence Solum, Originalism versus Living Constitutionalism: The Conceptual Structure of the Great Debate (As mentioned in this episode, this article is a great starting point for understanding the various theories and methods of originalism and non-originalism. It contains excellent references to the key literature, which we'd ordinarily include here in the show notes. But since it's so comprehensive, we'll just include this link.)
            • David Plunkett, Which Concepts Should We Use?: Metalinguistic Negotiations and The Methodology of Philosophy
            • Special Guest: Lawrence Solum.

              1 hr 24 min
            • Episode 191: Dynasty

              After discussion of failing memory, mispronunciation of names, and legal scholarship, we turn to a very serious topic with our guest, Eric Kades. The looming threat of dynastic wealth in the United States has been much discussed since, and even before, the publication of Thomas Piketty's Capital in the Twenty-First Century. We discuss Piketty's now-famous inequality, r > g, how certain legal rules handled the building of perpetual dynasties, the attack on those rules during the historically unusual period during which many of us have grown up, and Eric's proposed tax to fend off some of the dangers.

              This episode's links:

              • Eric Kade’s faculty profile and writing
              • Eric Kades, Of Piketty and Perpetuities
              • Thomas Piketty, Capital in the Twenty-First Century
              • Special Guest: Eric Kades.

                1 hr 18 min
              • Episode 190: Why We Write

                Just Joe and Christian talking about, inter alia, a paper about judicial writing and practice by the late Judge Wald. Live to tape and shipped without editing. Buyer beware!

                • Patricia Wald, The Rhetoric of Results and the Results of Rhetoric: Judicial Writings
                • 1 hr 27 min
                • Episode 189: Repugnance

                  Kim Krawiec rejoins us to discuss "repugnant" transactions. One common target of this adjective is trade in human body parts. While on the one hand making more matching kidneys available saves lives and prevents large amounts of suffering, on the other hand revulsion and concerns about coercion and distributive fairness arise when kidneys are bought and paid for. In recent years, a number of innovative market designs have allowed strangers to exchange kidneys without engaging in impersonal, commodified market transactions. And now there have been several global examples of such exchanges, transferring not only kidneys but also the resources needed to perform transplants in poor countries. But are these alternative designs still "markets," and what exactly is our problem with markets in kidneys anyway?

                  • Kim Krawiec’s faculty profile, writing, and website
                  • Oral Argument 17: Flesh List (guest Kim Krawiec)
                  • Kimberly Krawiec, Kidneys Without Money (a landing page for this article and responses by Glenn Cohen and Weyma Lübbe)
                  • Kieran Healy, Last Best Gifts
                  • Kieran Healy and Kimberly Krawiec, Repugnance Management and Transactions in the Body
                  • Philip Cook and Kimberly Krawiec, If We Allow Football Players and Boxers to Be Paid for Entertaining the Public, Why Don’t We Allow Kidney Donors to Be Paid for Saving Lives?
                  • Philip Cook and Kimberly Krawiec, A Primer on Kidney Transplantation: Anatomy of the Shortage
                  • Special Guest: Kimberly Krawiec.

                    1 hr 18 min
                  • Episode 188: Common Law Crimes

                    If you were charged with a crime, would you rather it be one written down by a legislature and codified in the tomes of a state's laws or one marked out by the decisions of judges over time? You're hardly alone if you chose the first option, and it is in fact the conventional wisdom that we have rightfully abandoned and prohibited "common law crimes." Not so fast, says our guest, Carissa Hessick. Our system of criminal law is still host to a good deal of common law, in the interstices of statutory text, through explicit incorporation, and sometimes from thin air. More importantly, if what you care about is the rule of law, then our system of code, in which prosecutors exercise less visible and less precedent-governed authority than any common law judge, hardly fits the bill.

                    • Carissa Hessick’s faculty profile and writing
                    • Carissa Hessick, The Myth of Common Law Crimes
                    • United States v. Hudson and Goodwin
                    • Bordenkircher v. Hayes
                    • Yates v. United States
                    • Bond v. United States
                    • Carissa Hessick, Vagueness Principles
                    • Bob Ratterman, Judicial Candidate Expresses Frustration with the Plea Bargain Process
                    • James Burnham, Why Don’t Courts Dismiss Indictments? A Simple Suggestion For Making Federal Criminal Law A Little Less Lawless
                    • Ion Meyn, Why Civil and Criminal Procedure Are So Different: A Forgotten History
                    • Special Guest: Carissa Hessick.

                      58 min

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