This week: the occupation of Ottawa. And as truckers and others continue to crash Canada's capital and beyond, it's striking (if not surprising) to watch how these protests have been handled—or not—providing a stark contrast to the often paramilitarized approach taken to Indigenous-led direct actions. Remember the outcry over critical infrastructure, said to be under siege by extremist Indian insurgents? Perspective is everything it seems, and amidst multiple cities' ongoing troubles with truckers, our Indigenous roundtable shares theirs. Joining host/producer Rick Harp this week are Ken Williams (assistant professor with the University of Alberta's department of drama) and Kim TallBear (professor in the Faculty of Native Studies at the University of Alberta), a conversation we recorded the afternoon of February 8, 2022.

// CREDITS: Our theme is 'nesting' by birocratic.