We discuss how ungoverning is the equivalent of a bull in a china shop. We have already seen the destruction of many institutions and many functions of the administrative state, but we don't yet know how much there is still to come.

Nancy's civic action toolkit recommendations are:

1) Don't let unpredictability strip you of your agency

2) Vote in local, county, and state elections

Nancy Rosenblum is the Senator Joseph Clark Professor of Ethics in Politics and Government Emerita at Harvard University, and the co-author of Ungoverning: The Attack on the Administrative State and the Politics of Chaos.

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Host: Mila Atmos

Guests: Nancy Rosenblum

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Producer: Zack Travis