Nick Hauselman is doing his thing, so Jared Yates Sexton welcomes Karl Folk to the pod to discuss the recent schism between racist MAGA and Tech Fascist MAGA. It's a long discussion about the inherent contradictions within fascism and the Right, the interests of the oligarchical and wealth classes and how they bring about opportunities for change, capitulation within liberal media and the Democratic Party, and the need to organize at the local level to get ready for both what's coming and to take advantage of opportunities as they arise.

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