Where does New Zealand sit in a new world order that ditches traditional international rules and favours the mighty over the tiny? 

There's a rupture in the international rules-based order, but that doesn't mean New Zealand will be crushed by bigger powers

Guest:

• Tim Groser- former NZ diplomat
• Jayme Poisson- Front Burner podcast host

Learn more:

• Former National leader Todd Muller's view on how New Zealand should react to the new world order. (Stuff)
• Steve Maharey on why New Zealand needs to listen to Mark Carney. (NZ Herald)
• The Conversation piece by Nicholas Ross Smith on NZ surviving and thriving in Trump's new world of great-power rivalry
• Mark Carney's World Economic Forum address

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Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details