In the summer of 2016, Gaylin Rose had moved her 4 little girls to Flora, a small town of just over 2,000 residents, seeking a fresh start. The two-story duplex cost $500 a month to rent, and by autumn, they were settling into a routine. Rose had secured a job at a nearby gas station, while her daughters threw themselves into school, cheerleading, and making new friends. On the night of November 20, Rose tucked her daughters into their bunkbeds upstairs. Rose retired to her bedroom on the lower floor.

At 3:00 a.m., silence gave way to chaos. Thick plumes of smoke curled up over East Columbia Street. By the time fire trucks left for the scene, a three-story apartment building at 103 East Columbia was already engulfed in flames.   The four sisters — Kionnie Welch, 5; Kerriele McDonald, 7; Keyara Phillips, 9; and Keyana Davis, 11  would not survive.

Join Cam and Jen on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast as we discuss ‘Lost in the Ashes: The Flora Fire Four.’ Today’s episode was a special request by Shaniece. Thanks for reaching out.

If you have any information about the Flora arson case, call the Indiana State Police at 800‑382‑4628 or submit a tip at tips.fbi.gov.

Listener discretion by @octoberpodVHS

Music is by our EP @theinkypawprint

Sources: 

https://www.wishtv.com/news/i-team-8/a-chase-for-answers-questions-remain-after-flora-fire-kills-4-girls/

https://fox59.com/dashboard-camera-video-reveals-rescue-attempt-in-deadly-flora-fire/

https://fox59.com/news/8-years-later-isp-discusses-deadly-flora-house-fire-that-left-4-girls-dead/

https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2025/07/07/fbi-state-police-go-door-to-door-to-try-to-solve-fatal-2016-flora-fire/84494391007/

https://fox59.com/news/8-years-later-isp-discusses-deadly-flora-house-fire-that-left-4-girls-dead/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK4fmbGAAmM

https://www.wishtv.com/news/i-team-8/the-chase-for-answers-mom-shares-anger-heartache-7-years-after-flora-fire-killed-4-girls/

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It was Halloween night in 1973 in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin. Nine-year-old Lisa Ann French dressed up to go trick-or-treating, but she never came home.

Lisa's disappearance terrified the town. The desperate search lasted for days, ending with a shocking discovery that changed how families everywhere thought about letting their kids trick-or-treat.

The awful truth? The person who took Lisa was someone she knew, a neighbor who lived right nearby.

This week, join Cam and Jen as they discuss the case of Lisa French and how "The Monster on Rose Avenue" stole a child's life and changed Halloween forever.

Thank you to our team

Listener Discretion by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edward October ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Research & Writing by Lauretta Allen

Executive Producers Nico & Jesse of The Inky Pawprint

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://theinkypawprint.com⁠⁠

Sources:

https://www.wisciviljusticecouncil.org/wwcms/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Thomas-M.-Hruz-Criminals-Escaping-Affliction-Gerald-Turner-and-Wisconsin%E2%80%99s-Fair-Employment-Law-Wisconsin-Interest-Winter-2000-at-7..pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lisa_Ann_French

https://www.nbc26.com/fonddulac/judge-says-halloween-killer-will-stay-in-mental-health-facility  (this article says she died of shock)

https://www.casemine.com/judgement/us/591494d9add7b049345c40a7

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimeDiscussion/comments/1abu1z6/on_halloween_1973_9yearold_lisa_ann_french_was/

https://people.com/lisa-french-halloween-murder-11697665

https://www.newspapers.com/image/270324881/?match=1&clipping_id=180855281

https://www.newspapers.com/image/270330493/?match=1&clipping_id=180855438

https://www.newspapers.com/image/597646228/?match=1&terms=Lisa%20French%20murder%20Halloween

https://www.newspapers.com/image/285243209/?match=1&terms=Lisa%20French%20murder%20Halloween

https://www.newspapers.com/image/270347812/

https://www.newspapers.com/image/288054377/?match=1&terms=Lisa%20French%20murder%20Halloween

https://www.newspapers.com/image/285223032/?match=1&clipping_id=180859221

https://www.newspapers.com/image/285323435/?match=1&clipping_id=180859305

https://www.newspapers.com/image/288068208/?match=1&terms=Lisa%20French%20murder%20Halloween

https://www.newspapers.com/image/611573818/?match=1&terms=Lisa%20French%20murder%20Halloween

https://www.newspapers.com/image/406427707/?match=1&terms=Lisa%20French%20murder%20Halloween

https://www.newspapers.com/image/1053173158/?match=1&terms=Lisa%20French%20murder%20Halloween

https://www.newspapers.com/image/270538845/?match=1&terms=Lisa%20French%20murder

https://www.newspapers.com/image/270538845/?match=1&terms=Lisa%20French%20murder

https://www.newspapers.com/image/290818494/

https://www.newspapers.com/image/270538317/?match=1&clipping_id=180862764

https://www.newspapers.com/image/270538375/?match=1&terms=Arlene%20Penn

https://www.newspapers.com/image/290924434/?match=1&terms=%22Lisa%20French%22%20murder (refutes confessions, denies even seeing her)

https://www.newspapers.com/image/1035313879/?match=1&terms=%22Lisa%20French%22%20murder

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoned_candy_myths

https://www.newspapers.com/image/270326228/?match=1&terms=%22Lisa%20French%22%20funeral

https://www.newspapers.com/image/288073336/?match=1&terms=%22Lisa%20French%22%20funeral

http://www.apricetopay.com/blog/the-halloween-killer

https://www.thepetitionsite.com/713/926/478/petition-to-keep-the-quotthe-halloween-killer-gerald-m.-turner-incarcerated/

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UPDATE:

When we first covered Robert Eugene Brashers back in April 2025, we never imagined he’d be tied to one of Texas’s most infamous crimes: the 1991 Austin Yogurt Shop Murders. Now, advanced DNA testing has confirmed his link to the horrific killings that haunted Austin for more than three decades.

On December 6, 1991, four teenage girls, Jennifer and Sarah Harbison, Eliza Thomas, and Amy Ayers, were found bound, gagged, and shot inside an I Can’t Believe It’s Yogurt! shop that had been set on fire. The case became one of Texas’s deepest mysteries, spawning thousands of leads, false confessions, and the wrongful convictions of two young men later cleared by DNA evidence.

Now stay tuned for episode 305: “Genetic Justice: Unmasking Robert Brashers.”

For years, Robert Brashers had managed to evade justice, slipping through the cracks repeatedly. But on January 13, 1999, his luck finally ran out in a modest motel room in Kennett, Missouri. What began as a routine police search quickly escalated into a tense, life-or-death standoff that would forever change the lives of those involved.

Who was Robert Brashers? A man who his wife and children loved. What could have driven him to such a tragic end?  The entire truth would remain hidden for years, with whispers suggesting that there were more victims out there. 

 Join Jen and Cam of Our True Crime Podcast on this episode, "Genetic Justice: Unmasking Robert Brashers.” 

Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS

Music is by our executive producer @theinkypawprint

Sources: 

https://www.facebook.com/InvestigationDiscovery/videos/connected-by-murder-on-the-case-with-paula-zahn/2284387901877879/

https://greenvillejournal.com/tag/robert-eugene-brashers/

https://www.kait8.com/2018/10/05/killer-linked-murders-missouri-tennessee-south-carolina-paragould/

https://www.oxygen.com/crime-time/murder-suspects-robert-brashers-body-exhumed-solve-two-1990s-cold-cases

https://archive.today/20230115112055/https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/crime/2018/10/05/greenville-cold-case-robert-brashers-jenny-zitricki/1534079002/

https://archive.ph/20230115112155/https://www.kfvs12.com/2019/02/05/my-father-was-serial-killer-robert-brashers-daughter-speaks-out/#selection-811.21-1279.52

https://archive.ph/20230115112128/https://greenvillejournal.com/news/greenville-police-murderer-in-28-year-old-cold-case-identified/#selection-937.42-937.43

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Eugene_Brashers

https://archive.today/20230115112038/https://www.fultonsun.com/news/2020/nov/19/fulton-resident-reminisces-homicide-investigation/

https://archive.ph/20230115112159/https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2019/01/13/daughter-serial-killer-rapist-tied-greenville-hes-still-my-father/2481586002/#selection-529.0-851.132

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/31099977/robert-brashers-mo-from-1985/

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/54853022/robert-brashers-florida-crime-1985/

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The Knotek residence appeared unremarkable to outsiders. A modest home, needing a bit of work from years of rain, rested quietly on a tree-lined street. To neighbors, it was just another house, just another family. Behind its doors, however, was a living nightmare—meticulously orchestrated by Michelle Knotek, with the complicity of her husband, David. Outwardly, Michelle seemed maternal, warm, and inviting. In truth, her hospitality was a trap. At first, life with the Knoteks appeared normal, but the facade didn’t last long. Michelle’s cruelty emerged gradually, each act more deliberate and sadistic than the last. 

Join Cam and Jen on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘From Mother to Monster: The Knotek Family.’

Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS

All Music by our EP @theinkypawprint

Make sure to check out the promo from our friends at The Final Trace https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-final-trace

 Sources:

https://www.amazon.com/If-You-Tell-Unbreakable-Sisterhood-ebook/dp/B07Q5TL9SQ

https://books.google.com/books?id=5ahTxAEACAAJ

https://www.chinookobserver.com/news/local/raymond-murderer-crazy-shellie-released-from-prison/article_539f6e46-61f3-11ed-99c6-433b5a338fd0.html

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/wa-court-of-appeals/1430291.html

https://ftp.spaceneedle.com/browse/mL1FD1/600976/Knotek%20Daughters%20Their%20Story%20Unveiled.pdf

http://web.kitsapsun.com/archive/2003/08-14/228867_couple_charged_with_murder_in_d.html

https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/20030817/raymond17m/something-unspeakable-now-the-talk-of-two-towns

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Woman-gets-22-years-in-deaths-of-boarders-1152156.php

https://www.oxygen.com/snapped/photos/episode-19-michelle-knotek

https://www.shortform.com/blog/michelle-knotek-shane-watson/

https://www.magersandquinn.com/product/AMER-MOST-EVIL-MOM-SHELLY-KNOT/26348146

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1657267/

https://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/suspect-s-relatives-contacted-police-in-2001-1121929.php#page-1-

https://tdn.com/business/local/raymond-couple-charged-in-murders/article_944e373c-9fbd-5bfb-8650-2501a09a53aa.html

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Dog-adds-twist-to-Raymond-case-1121726.php

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Careful! This one is disturbing.

In the early 2000s, women in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, lived in fear. Two different predators were stalking the city, leaving a trail of terror and death. While authorities were hunting for one killer, another, even more depraved murderer was operating completely under the radar.

For ten years, Sean Vincent Gillis lived a chilling double life, murdering at least eight women, and the details of his crimes are beyond deranged. Even other serial killers are disturbed by him.

He wasn't some dark, shadowy figure who stood out from the crowd. To all who knew him, he was just an ordinary guy, not the monster that was hiding in plain sight.

Join Jen and Cam as they talk about "The Butcher of Baton Rouge: Sean Vincent Gillis."

Be sure to stay and listen to the promo for Ghost Bites. It's a new podcast brought to you by our friends, Mike and JT from Brew Crime. It's perfect listening for spooky season!

Thank you to our team

Listener Discretion by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edward October ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Research & Writing by Lauretta Allen

Executive Producers Nico & Jesse of The Inky Pawprint

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://theinkypawprint.com⁠⁠

Sources:

https://www.newspapers.com/image/218293983

https://www.newspapers.com/image/1037869884/?match=1&clipping_id=179454176

https://www.newspapers.com/image/473164922/?match=1&clipping_id=179454243

https://www.newspapers.com/image/1037516392/?match=1&clipping_id=179454409

https://www.promega.es/-/media/files/products-and-services/genetic-identity/ishi-28-oral-abstracts/berry.pdf

https://murderpedia.org/male.G/g/gillis-sean.htm

https://www.newspapers.com/image/1037890650/?match=1&clipping_id=179456922

https://www.newspapers.com/image/1037890581/?match=1&terms=%22Hardee%20Schmidt%22

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/58750961/rachel-anna-bryan

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/147871800/donna-johnston

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/93816412/annie_hardee-schmidt

https://www.newspapers.com/image/447359491/?match=1&terms=%22Johnnie%20Mae%20Williams%22

https://www.newspapers.com/image/229163871/?match=1&clipping_id=179459891

https://www.newspapers.com/image/470289746/?match=1&clipping_id=179459996

https://www.newspapers.com/image/220130172/?match=1&clipping_id=179460099

https://www.newspapers.com/image/1038511629/?match=1&clipping_id=179460210

https://www.newspapers.com/image/1038511320/?match=1&clipping_id=179460342

https://www.newspapers.com/image/1037326900/?match=1&terms=%22Donna%20Bennett%20Johnston%22

https://www.newspapers.com/image/225434960/?match=1&terms=%22Sean%20Vincent%20Gillis%22

https://www.newspapers.com/image/1036434978/?match=1&clipping_id=179461186

https://youtu.be/KPB_vznn77o?si=Y7R-0F4rbXCG5a08

https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/sean-gillis-now

https://medmindist.com/sean-vincent-gillis/

https://www.newspapers.com/image/1037300915/?match=1&terms=%22Sean%20Gillis%22%20

https://www.newspapers.com/image/539788905/?match=1&terms=%22Sean%20Gillis%22%20

https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/Sean_Vincent_Gillis

Gillis is also featured in several documentaries, including "Butchers in the Bayou," "The Devil You Know," and "World's Most Evil Killers."

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The internet often feels like a harmless escape. A place where Facebook shows you picture-perfect families, where influencers promise miracles in a bottle, where friendships are born from nothing more than a shared “like.” But behind the glow of the monitor, reality can warp into something darker, something far more dangerous than anyone imagines. In one quiet town, a single online connection spiraled into lies, obsession, and betrayal, trapping people in a digital web they never saw coming until it was too late. Because online, anyone can be anything. And for one young man, that illusion would prove deadly.

Join Cam and Jen on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘Love, Lies and the Internet: The Murder of Brian Barrett.’

Listener discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS

Music by our editor/ep @theinkypawprint

Sources:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2180168/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDjNvcrAA0A

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/07/nyregion/07triangle.html

https://www.lockportjournal.com/news/local_news/courts-montgomery-gets-20-years-in-internet-love-triangle-killing/article_d124d951-07a1-5d2e-bdae-b15098085262.html

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca6/24-5637/24-5637-2025-06-09.html

https://www.officer.com/investigations/article/55293384/how-to-catch-a-criminal-liar-liar

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/internet-love-triangle-comes-to-deadly-end/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/web-user-sentenced-for-killing-online-rival-1.636158

https://abcnews.go.com/US/online-love-triangle-deception-end-murder/story?id=14371076

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Altona, Manitoba, is a small town sitting in the middle of a windswept prairie about a fifteen-minute drive north of North Dakota. In the winter, the days are short, the snow falls frequently, and there’s very little to do except play hockey or other indoor activities.

Join Jen and Cam as they discuss "Out of the Fire: Murder in Altona."

Thank you to our team

Listener Discretion by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edward October ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Research & Writing by Lauretta Allen

Executive Producers Nico & Jesse of The Inky Pawprint

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://theinkypawprint.com⁠

Sources:

https://www.newspapers.com/image/737008967/?match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/948646262/?match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/737008599/?match=1&terms=%22Curtis%20Klassen%22

https://www.newspapers.com/image/737008599/?match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/735474324/?match=1

https://www.newspapers.com/image/735472254/?match=1

https://www.iaedjournal.org/the-road-of-resilience

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/altona-manitoba-documentary-world-premiere-1.7049171

https://www.steinbachonline.com/articles/documentary-altona-uses-30-year-old-crime-to-explore-forgiveness

https://www.firefightingincanada.com/a-story-of-resilience-26441/

https://www.newspapers.com/image/737008967/?match=1&terms=%22Curtis%20Klassen%22

https://www.newspapers.com/image/1011921809/?match=1&clipping_id=178356248

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altona_murder#:~:text=The%20Altona%20murder%20occurred%20in,bodily%20injuries%20and%20alerted%20authorities.&text=Giesbrecht%20was%20arrested%20shortly%20after%2C%20and%20confessed%20to%20the%20murder.

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/2010/06/18/killer-to-get-taste-of-freedom

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/1.5551761 (this interview with Klassen's dad is just pitiful)

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/43-survivors-tyler-pelke-and-the-nova-scotia-boy/id1483801903?i=1000516794821

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altona_murder

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/1.5553431

https://www.brandonsun.com/local/2013/06/18/bible-belts-bogeyman-still-haunts-town

https://winnipegsun.com/2014/03/02/rising-out-of-the-fire

https://www.newspapers.com/image/734980397/?match=1&terms=%22Curtis%20Klassen%22

https://www.newspapers.com/image/734980254/?match=1&terms=%22Curtis%20Klassen%22

https://www.newspapers.com/image/735009940/?match=1&terms=%22Curtis%20Klassen%22

https://www.newspapers.com/image/735843197/?match=1&terms=%22Curtis%20Klassen%22

https://www.newspapers.com/image/1022422054/?match=1&terms=%22Curtis%20Klassen%22

I survived Season 7 episode 10, A&E

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Do you want to know what it is like to be one of  'Our True Crime Podcast' Patreons? 

Here is a sneak peek. This episode was released in January on our Patreon platform. Due to circumstances, we were unable to produce an episode this week, so we thought it was a perfect time to revisit an episode that originally aired on Patreon. Join us!

The Petit family lived in an idyllic, quiet, tree-lined neighborhood of Cheshire, Connecticut. Dr. William Petit, a respected endocrinologist, his wife Jennifer, a beloved nurse, and their two daughters—17-year-old Hayley, a bright and driven high school senior, and 11-year-old Michaela, a sweet and creative child—made their home at 300 Sorghum Mill Drive. By all accounts, the Petits were a picture of suburban success. But on the evening of July 22, 2007, an unassuming trip to the local Stop & Shop set in motion a chain of events that would shatter their world.

Join Cam and Jen on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled “The Cheshire Murders: The Petit Family.”

LD by @octoberpodVHS

Music by @theinkypawprint

Sources:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/27/justice/connecticut-home-invasion-sentencing/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

https://abcnews.go.com/US/petit-trial-coroner-describes-teen-daughters-death/story?id=14607151

https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/local/charges-against-steven-hayes/2059089/?amp=1

https://www.registercitizen.com/news/article/Komisarjevsky-complete-list-of-charges-12058464.php

The Cheshire Murders (Television production). HBO

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/connecticuts-top-court-overturns-death-penalty-state-n409256

https://web.archive.org/web/20190910201036/http://www.nbcnews.com/id/20706697/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/t/desperate-hours#.Xo9cXYhKiUk

https://medium.com/the-true-crime-times/the-cheshire-murders-innocence-lost-1e4bec712e09

https://web.archive.org/web/20100926195121/http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/twisted_texts_of_killer_G8iLnVxkF0WgpcTcOeC4QM

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/petit-family-murder-trial-new-evidence-testimony-paints-graphic-picture-of-conn-home-invasion/

https://archive.today/20120723165500/http://www.courant.com/community/cheshire/cheshire-home-invasion/hc-komisarjevsky-fair-trial-1110-20101109,0,2009741.story

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/07/17/cheshire-connecticut-home-invasion-murders-10-years-later/483863001/

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Thank you to Amy M for requesting this episode!

A rich and powerful man who thought he was above the law and a brave sheriff who refused to back down.

This is the story of how one murder brought a corrupt "king" and his reign of terror crashing down.

Join Jen & Cam as we explore the 1948 case that made history in the American South, "Fall of a Kingdom: Coweta County Murder"

Thank you to our team

Listener Discretion by ⁠⁠⁠⁠Edward October ⁠⁠⁠⁠

Research & Writing by Lauretta Allen

Executive Producers Nico & Jesse of The Inky Pawprint ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://theinkypawprint.com⁠

Please go to www.ourtruecrimepodcast.com for a complete list of sources.

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It was the evening of July 6, 2007, when the call came in to the Russell County Sheriff’s Department. A truck driver had spotted what he believed to be a body lying along a lonely stretch of road outside Phenix City, Alabama. At first, the deputies dismissed it as unlikely. This was a tight-knit community, a place where neighbors grew up together and tragedies of that magnitude felt unthinkable. But on that humid Southern night, something unspeakable had happened.

Lieutenant Heath Taylor and Sergeant Grover Goodrich were dispatched to the scene. The road was rural, unlit, and shrouded in silence, save for the hum of insects. Their flashlights cut through the dark landing on what could no longer be mistaken: the body of a young woman, late teens or early twenties, crumpled in the gravel. Who would kill this young woman and why? Both answers would be shocking.

Join Cam and Jen of Our True Crime Podcast as we discuss ‘The Killer Next to Her: Stephanie ‘Shea’ Graham.’

Listener discretion if from @octoberpodVHS

Music is by our editor @theinkypawprint

Hey! You want to go to Italy with us in June 2026, make sure to check out the details on our webpage. ourtruecrimepodcast.com or reach out and email [email protected].

Sources:

https://www.alabamaag.gov/attorney-general-steve-marshall-announces-court-of-criminal-appeals-upholds-capital-murder-conviction-in-russell-county/

https://www.wtvm.com/2019/07/20/capital-murder-conviction-upheld-phenix-city-woman-accused-contract-killing-her-daughter/

https://ftp.analyticowl.com/trendzone/stephanie-graham-murder-where-are-lisa-graham-and-kenneth-walton%C2%A0now

https://www.cbs42.com/news/crime/the-5-women-on-alabamas-death-row/

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/19/19-8782/150960/20200821153708727_BIO.pdf

https://www.wtvm.com/story/28220610/fmr-investigator-testifies-in-day-3-of-lisa-graham-retrial/

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimeDiscussion/comments/193bl0u/was_death_row_inmate_lisa_grahams_husband_kevin_a/

https://www.oxygen.com/snapped/season-20/lisa-graham

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