What does it mean to raise children who can navigate an AI-driven world without losing their critical thinking, courage, connection and humanity?
Perhaps even more importantly — how do we become first movers ourselves?
In this episode of Out Of Her Mind, I'm joined by Yasmin London, author of First Movers, speaker, entrepreneur, former NSW Police Officer and founder of ySafe.
Yasmin's career was profoundly shaped by an experience as a police officer when she was called to negotiate with a 14-year-old girl experiencing a suicidal crisis after severe cyberbullying. That moment changed the direction of her life and led her into the world of cyber safety, technology and ultimately courageous leadership.
We talk about:
- AI and children — what parents need to know
- Cyberbullying and the real-world impact of online experiences
- How parents can have better conversations with their kids about technology
- Why banning technology isn't necessarily the answer
- Why we need to protect critical thinking and avoid outsourcing our thinking to AI
- Why women need to be part of the conversation about the future of technology
- What it means to stay human in an increasingly AI-driven world
- What Yasmin means by creating “First Movers”
Her new and first book, First Movers, is ultimately about much more than AI.
It's about courageous self-leadership.
It's about recognising those moments when you know something needs to change, questioning the status quo, and having the courage to take that first step even when you don't feel completely ready.
Because what if we stopped waiting for someone else to go first?
What if we became the first movers?
This is such an important conversation for parents, women and anyone trying to navigate a rapidly changing world while staying connected to who they are.
Find Yasmin London Here
⚠️ CONTENT WARNING: This episode includes discussion of teenage bullying, cyberbullying, suicidal thoughts and suicide, as well as AI-generated and manipulated images. We also briefly discuss AI in relation to images of children and young people. Please use your discretion, particularly if children are nearby.
Support & Resources
If anything discussed in this episode brings something up for you, please don’t feel like you have to navigate it alone. There are services available across Australia that can provide support.
Lifeline Australia
For anyone experiencing emotional distress, feeling overwhelmed or having difficulty coping. Available 24/7.
Call 13 11 14
Text 0477 13 11 14 or use Lifeline’s online chat.
Kids Helpline
Free, confidential counselling for young people aged 5–25, available 24/7.
Call 1800 55 1800 or use their online chat.
Beyond Blue
Support for people experiencing anxiety, depression, feeling overwhelmed or going through a difficult time. Their Support Service is available 24/7.
Call 1300 22 4636 or access online counselling.
eSafety Commissioner
If you or your child are experiencing cyberbullying, serious online abuse or image-based abuse — including digitally altered or AI-generated intimate images — eSafety can provide information, support and reporting pathways.
YSafe
For education and resources around cyber safety, children, young people and navigating technology safely.
If you or someone else is in immediate danger, call 000.
Please remember: reaching out for help is not a sign that you're failing. Sometimes the most courageous thing you can do is let someone else stand beside you.
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