Out of Our Minds

Pastor Tim and Andrew reflect on one of the significant reset points in our year: the beginning of the new school year.

The free-ranging discussion includes the following topics:

• How do you send your children off in the morning?
• The utility of school uniforms
• How to remove some decisions from your day because they drain your battery
• Avoid parenting books that guilt-trip you into conformity to the "perfect" system
• Avoid comparing yourself to others in a competitive mode
• Child-rearing fads
• As your children age, everything becomes more serious
• Be conscientious about the friends of your children
• Who do your children look up to and want approval from?
• What are your priorities as a parent?

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Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

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Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

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We have failed to teach our children and our culture the creation mandates: "God blessed them; and God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth'" (Gen. 1:28).

We need to restore the faith that believes God's commands, particularly His creation mandates regarding fruitfulness, are for all ages, for man's good, and His glory.

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Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

Master of Divinity
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Groundwork: The Victory of Christ & The Great Conversation

Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.

In this episode, Pastor Tim Bayly is joined by his son, Joseph (Senior Pastor at Christ Church in Cincinnati), and son-in-law, Lucas Weeks (College and Administrative Pastor at Trinity Reformed Church in Bloomington, IN) to discuss parenting.

We often think that our parenting is a failure if we have to resort to authority. That attitude is foolishness and an abandonment of God's rules for parenting. Our fears and modern psychologists have trained us to believe that authority is antithetical to having your child's heart. We must be reminded that if we intend to hold on to our children, obedience to God is the only way. 

No one would deny that mothers and fathers have duties regarding their children, but many are willing to dispute that children have duties regarding their parents. Parents ought to serve and love their children, but also children ought to serve and love their parents. 

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Mentions during the show:

First, the podcast starts out talking about this book: 

Hold On to Your Kids: Why Parents Need to Matter More Than Peers

by Gordon Neufeld and Gabor Maté

Second, we mention this book:

Shepherding a Child’s Heart

by Ted Tripp

Third, I read from this book:

The Thing (the chapter I read from is titled, “The Drift from Domesticity”)

by G. K. Chesterton

Joseph mentioned:

Technopoly: The Surrender of Culture to Technology

By Neil Postman

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Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

Master of Divinity
Bachelor of Divinity
Certificate in Bible & Theology
Groundwork: The Victory of Christ & The Great Conversation

Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.

History changes very quickly. Read the book of Esther. We've witnessed numerous surprising and sobering changes in the past two weeks.

The performance of President Biden during the debate makes us question who allowed for (or orchestrated) such a sad spectacle. What if an assassin's bullet had killed former President Trump? What effect will this event have on his soul?

Mentioned in the episode: Donald Trump was being interviewed, and asked what he thought about death—whether he was worried about it—he responded: “No. I'm fatalistic and I protect myself as well as anybody can. I prepare for things. But ultimately we all end up going. No. I don't believe in reincarnation, heaven, or hell—but we go someplace. Do you know, I cannot, for the life of me, figure out where.” (Chicago Tribune, March 12, 1989, page 10, Section 5)

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Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

Master of Divinity
Bachelor of Divinity
Certificate in Bible & Theology
Groundwork: The Victory of Christ & The Great Conversation

Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.

It must be understood that the Christian faith is never owned by any king or any party. A constant temptation of Christians is to be programmed by personalities. Rather than taking cheap, easy, stupid, and faithless shortcuts, we ought to be taught how to think. Primarily and tragically, we forget the doctrine of the sinfulness of all men (even our heroes) and the doctrine of the Fall. Learn in this episode what it means to think as a Christian, not as a partisan.

The episode ends with a brief return to answer a question from a previous episode on money.

Harry Blamires' The Christian Mind: How Should A Christian Think?

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Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

Master of Divinity
Bachelor of Divinity
Certificate in Bible & Theology
Groundwork: The Victory of Christ & The Great Conversation

Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.

The people of God know how to justify generosity toward themselves and stinginess toward the church and her shepherds. The Lord rebukes His people for such sin through the prophet Haggai: "Then the word of the LORD came by Haggai the prophet, saying, 'Is it time for you yourselves to dwell in your paneled houses while this house lies desolate?'" (Haggai 1:3-4)

On the other hand, there are hucksters in church leadership who love money more than they love the sheep. They refuse to shepherd for fear the tithes and offerings will dwindle.

Pastor Tim & Andrew Henry discuss money at church and aim pastors and sheep toward faithfulness.

Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

Master of Divinity
Bachelor of Divinity
Certificate in Bible & Theology
Groundwork: The Victory of Christ & The Great Conversation

Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.

Jürgen Von Hagen and Tim Bayly return to the studio and do some follow-up work on the war in Ukraine. Then they cover numerous other geopolitical, economic, and societal issues:

Is America an empire

Letters from listeners

Milton Friedman and the welfare state

Immigration and skilled/unskilled labor

What is the value of human life?

Under the Third Reich, the United States barred Jews from immigrating here

Impact of American isolationism on the American economy

Trade regime

Changes in the relationship of Taiwanese and Chinese economies

War in Ukraine being closely watched by China

American support for Ukraine indirectly supports Taiwan

Russian culture and Stalin, Chinese culture and Chairman Mao, German culture and Hitler

Were Nazis Martians, or Germans?

East German identity and West German identity

Patriotism in Europe vs America

Love for Fatherland and Christian nationalism

Origin of right-wing (AFD) in Germany today

Oliver Cromwell and Christian nationalism

Don’t ever give any economic forecast

The US economic future

German infrastructure failing but no government wants to cut social welfare benefits

Russian demographics and Putin's aggression

American economy and growing wealth inequality

Murray’s “Coming Apart”; Belmont and Fishtown

Professors’ pay at American vs European universities

Professors’ pay at Christian colleges

Cryptocurrency

Choosing the church over the university

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Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

Master of Divinity
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Certificate in Bible & Theology
Groundwork: The Victory of Christ & The Great Conversation

Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.

Rev. Dr. Jürgen von Hagen, the senior pastor of Free Evangelical Church in Mülheim an der Ruhr, Germany, and professor of economics at the University of Bonn, Germany, joins Rev. Bayly at the Michigan house for a free-ranging conversation on Ukraine, Putin, German church history, the European economy, and leadership.

A quick summary of Jürgen's view: Putin won't be satisfied with Ukraine.

Two books referenced in the show, both by Timothy Snyder:

Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin

The Road to Unfreedom: Russia, Europe, America

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Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

Master of Divinity
Bachelor of Divinity
Certificate in Bible & Theology
Groundwork: The Victory of Christ & The Great Conversation

Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.

Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

Master of Divinity
Bachelor of Divinity
Certificate in Bible & Theology
Groundwork: The Victory of Christ & The Great Conversation

Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.

Parachurch ministries, political causes, and entrepreneurial enterprises seduce good men away from giving their lives to the Church and her pastoral work. How do we attract young men to the work of the Church during the formative years of their lives? College professors successfully shape their students, often in perverse ways. Why do pastors lack a similar zeal? What must pastors do to identify and draw men into working with Christ's sheep?

As mentioned in the show, please check out the Psalm setting by My Soul Among Lions. 

Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

Master of Divinity
Bachelor of Divinity
Certificate in Bible & Theology
Groundwork: The Victory of Christ & The Great Conversation

Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.