Tim and Andrew discuss the ups and downs—pastorally and financially—of the church year.

Along the way, they cover the science of fasteners (nylok bolts and nuts), the death of expertise, quangos, creating a peaceful climate in a church to protect the sheep, disciplining the rich and the poor, dumpster diving, God's bountiful care for us, why pastors avoid addressing the world's calamities in the pastoral prayer or sermon (lack of compassion)...oh, and a brief mention of Epstein and the desire for justice.

Tim and Andrew discuss Jacob Gonzales's "A Dialogue with Amathés: On Laws and Magistrates." Memes, audio books, Bible translation issues, NASB95's footnotes, God's Fatherhood, male semantic meaning components, Christian nationalism, and associated issues are discussed.

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Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

Master of Divinity / Bachelor of Divinity
Certificate in Bible & Theology

Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.

Sarah Dionne joined Tim and Mary Lee to discuss: How should parents relate to their adult children who are leaving the home (children generally between the ages of 17 and 22)?

There are many books teaching parents how to care for toddlers and teenagers, but fewer about what to do with adult children who are leaving or have already left the home.

How do parents handle it when their children are leaving home? It’s heartbreaking, yet by the time they are 18, parents should be ready and encouraged to see them leave.

How long should daughters stay in their father's home?

With time, the authority of father and mother shifts from command to wise counsel. But the obligation to be a mother and father does not end when children are over 18. They still need counsel; they should not be cut off—launched and forgotten.

How do you keep your children’s hearts soft toward you as they grow into adulthood?

Links:

1. Wendy Shalit’s A Return to Modesty

2. Kaplowitz (documentary)

3. Cesar Millan, dog whisperer

The point of warfare is to kill and win, but the means to that end must be considered. The bloodlust of mankind is seldom, if ever, suppressed at the point of considering some advantage. Then again, warfare has been a history of unfair advantages through technological innovation hidden from the enemy. Tim and Andrew discuss some of those technological advances in history, our latest technological advance (drones), and the complexity of warfare.

And, please, can we remember to pray for those who have to make the actual decisions about international relations and war?

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Mentioned in the episode:

Carnage and Culture: Landmark Battles in the Rise to Western Power by Victor Davis Hanson

Flannery O'Connor: "If other ages felt less, they saw more, even though they saw with the bind, prophetical, unsentimental eye of acceptance, which is to say, of faith. In the absence of this faith now, we govern by tenderness. It is a tenderness which, long since cut off from the person of Christ, is wrapped in theory. When tenderness is detached from the source of tenderness, its logical outcome is terror. It ends in forced-labor camps and in the fumes of the gas chamber" (from A Memoir of Mary Ann).

Modern Times by Paul Johnson

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Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

Master of Divinity
Bachelor of Divinity
Certificate in Bible & Theology
Groundwork: The Victory of Christ & The Great Conversation

Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.

The family meal: We set the table not only with food but also with conversation and leadership. Efficiency is not the priority of the day. We must slow down, guide the conversation, even after a long day at work. Time at the family dinner table serves as a microcosm of life. A father must concern himself with worship, etiquette (showing kindness to others), and directed conversation, while remembering that it takes discernment to determine which hills he will die on when someone says something obtuse.

Family meals and devotions should not be guilt trips. Keep them simple and focus on what you and your family enjoy most. Many husbands perform at the dinner table and during devotions to meet their wives' expectations and aspirations.

For more, read or listen to Tim's Daddy Tried: Overcoming the Failures of Fatherhood.

The internet is a balkanization of the populace: Everybody finds those they want to listen to. It is exceedingly difficult to teach somebody whose principal input in his life is through the internet. With a flesh-and-blood pastor, you at least can see his sins, his wife, and his children. Generally, with a pastor, you can’t escape his bad smells, but on the internet, everything and everyone is perfect.

The most difficult thing you do in ministry is to call your own congregation to repentance. It is easy to talk about the sins of people outside the church, but exceedingly costly to do so to those within the church. Your job is on the line. A godly church will love you for that. But there are a lot of bad congregations—those congregations that like their ears tickled. We should love our pastors when they make us angry with their helpfulness.

Yet, if pastors will preach to their congregations, their congregations will lead the world. It is not until we are challenged to submit to Scripture ourselves that we will be salt and light in the world. If there is going to be a Biblical church, the most important thing to do is to keep its discipline vivified. But we'd much rather spend our time fighting people who are opposed to Christianity. NETTR protects the "constituents," and casts stones at the world.

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Mentioned in the episode...

From Melville's Moby Dick, chapter 8, "The Pulpit": "What could be more full of meaning?- for the pulpit is ever this earth’s foremost part; all the rest comes in its rear; the pulpit leads the world. From thence it is the storm of God’s quick wrath is first descried, and the bow must bear the earliest brunt. From thence it is the God of breezes fair or foul is first invoked for favorable winds. Yes, the world’s a ship on its passage out, and not a voyage complete; and the pulpit is its prow."

Fundamentalism and American Culture by George Marsden

C.S. Lewis, from The Last Battle: "By mixing a little truth with it, they had made their lie far stronger."

Robert Owen: "All the world is queer, save thee and me, and even thou art a little queer."

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Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

Master of Divinity
Bachelor of Divinity
Certificate in Bible & Theology
Groundwork: The Victory of Christ & The Great Conversation

Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.

***Live Zoom videoconference with Jürgen and Tim will take place on Tuesday, April 29, at 2 p.m. ET.***

Jürgen von Hagen leads a discussion on tariffs, trade, and global economics. NOTE: This episode is best listened to with THESE GRAPHS pulled up on your device.

Also discussed: Trump's tariff strategy, the Russian threat, trusting God with our lives, trade deficits, manufacturing vs. service economy, savings-investment gap, Apple Computer, F-35 jets and their software, foreign debt, debt crisis, World Trade Organization, GATT, US responsibility for keeping peace.

"Democracy is not good at financial discipline. Politicians like to spend money, and they don't think about how it will be financied." - von Hagen

"Economic history tells us that taxing foreigners never works." - von Hagen

PLEASE NOTE: We will update information on the Warhorn Media podcast page (here) for the live Zoom meeting mentioned in the podcast. Stay tuned!

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Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

Master of Divinity
Bachelor of Divinity
Certificate in Bible & Theology
Groundwork: The Victory of Christ & The Great Conversation

Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.

Not All Tesla is Tesla. What Tesla means to people has shifted drastically. It’s a shibboleth in our culture. From the darling of the green left to the “Swasticar,” you're now considered a villain if you drive a Tesla, particularly a Cybertruck. 

We don’t understand Elon Musk until we get a grip on South Africa and her unapologetic males. South Africans have not been run through the American/European "plastic extruder" that removes manhood from them. We as a nation have lost manhood. South African males typically have this attitude: there is absolutely nothing that they can’t do. It’s an endearing trait. There are many things you can say about Elon, but he does demonstrate irrefragable masculinity. Intrinsic to that trait is a can-do positive confidence. There is an optimism about him that causes him in most things to come through.

Purchasing a Tesla used to be a way of widening your phylacteries. It was a symbol of progressive ideology. Now it is a right-wing middle finger. Being a Tesla owner is a legitimate risk to your safety. It is increasingly possible that the left is going to lose their mind so badly that they are going to create a revolution. What is going to happen? Will the center hold? 

And then there is the woke right and their millenarian crusader vengeance fantasies.

There is a fundamental truth about violence: it is like fire. Once you start it, you can’t control it.

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Mentioned in the show:

the evolving simplicity of SpaceX's Raptor engine.

This video covers his interview at Satellite 2020:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD0bcsAXaic

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Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

Master of Divinity
Bachelor of Divinity
Certificate in Bible & Theology
Groundwork: The Victory of Christ & The Great Conversation

Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.

What is the origin of the "devil's advocate"? What are the benefits of assigning someone to that role? It has been noted in Scottish Presbyterian polity that a unanimous decision has not been sufficiently debated. In other words, either the issue was trivial, the presbyters were apathetic, or no one stepped up to elevate the debate by serving as the devil's advocate.

Tim and Andrew encourage listeners to learn how to think, not just what to think. We must guide our children to know how to argue respectfully, anticipate objections, understand their opponents' arguments, and recognize and resist groupthink. Tim draws on his experience as the moderator of a church session and discusses how these principles come into play during elder board meetings.

Here's something worth remembering when you are tempted to dismiss Robert's Rules of Order: procedural rules for assembly arguments exist to protect the minority's voice and the majority's will.

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Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

Master of Divinity
Bachelor of Divinity
Certificate in Bible & Theology
Groundwork: The Victory of Christ & The Great Conversation

Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.

Pastor Tim is joined by his wife (Mary Lee) and their three daughters (Heather, Michal, & Hannah). They discuss Catherine Ruth Pakaluk's recent book Hannah's Children: The Women Quietly Defying the Birth Dearth. The book serves as a launching point for discussing the joys and troubles of motherhood, childrearing, and the culturally rebellious decision to obey God's command to be fruitful and multiply.

Here's a link to the family video mentioned in the podcast.

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Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

Master of Divinity
Bachelor of Divinity
Certificate in Bible & Theology
Groundwork: The Victory of Christ & The Great Conversation

Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.