Today we are revisiting part of a conversation between Heinemann authors Penny Kittle and Kelly Gallagher. They share their insights on overcoming student disengagement through authentic book clubs and intentional classroom practices. They explore the effects of educational pressures on both teachers and students and uncover why many high schoolers claim they "don't like reading." If you are looking for inspiration and ideas on balancing academic demands with meaningful connection-driven teaching, this compact episode is for you.

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