We interview Ellie from Pocket Casts on the future direction of the podcast app; Matthew from Platform Media on why the company was acquired by PodX; and talk about the closure of Pacific Content.

We're trying something new this week: trying to bring down the duration of this podcast to 45 minutes. Haven't quite succeeded yet, but we're on the way; that means shorter edits of interviews, and a more focused story selection. Please give feedback to us (fanmail, boosts, email) with your thoughts on the format and how we can improve.

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