Uzair talks to Mosharraf Zaidi, founder of Tabadlab, about his latest opinion column, why he is not optimistic about a change in elite behavior, and ways in which the state should deal with groups like the TLP and PTM.

Reading Recommendations are all books written by Mariana Mazzucato:

- Mission Economy: A Moonshot Guide to Changing Capitalism

- The Value of Everything: Makers and Takers in the Global Economy

- The Entrepreneurial State

If you like this podcast, then do check out Tabadlab's latest podcast focusing on Climate Change. Listen to Climate Mahaul using the link below or by searching for it on your favorite podcast app.

https://soundcloud.com/climatemahaul