We have a special guest that even rocked Mark's world (we know that only because he said he wanted to re-listen to the interview which is a good sign)! Join us as we chat with Matt's sister who is a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and doing private practice in San Diego.

Plus we chat about the two ER doctors from Bakersfield and do a little fact check on their numbers. Finally we take a quick look at the good and not-so-good re-openings going around the country!

Oh, we also decided to change our podcast name to, "It's okay that it is complicated." Kidding!

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• Dr. Erickson/Bakersfield Briefing 
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Today Stephen and Matt talk about whether or not Sweden is the right direction for our country, and do a deep dive on the science of lockdowns. They end the episode by talking about how "saving" will become the new "spending" in America and "lean manufacturing" is still sustainable for businesses in light of a pandemic (any how lean principles may be helpful to us right now as well). Thanks for listening!

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• You can compare Sweden with their neighboring countries here.
• Here is an article about the difficulties in Sweden right now.
• Lockdowns Don't Work - Public Discourse
• South Dakota cases skyrocket
• Eight Waists of Lean

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Today it is just Stephen and Matt but you don't want to miss this episode! The two of them take a charitable look at the protestors and states pushing to ease social distancing soon to see if science backs their claim. Please share this episode with anyone who might find this information valuable! We did our best to do this with sincerity as we all want the same thing: a life that resembles normalcy as soon as possible, our freedom back all the while making sure that those who need care and protection, receive it! :-)

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Today Stephen, Mark and Matt chat about how the WHO all began, what it's purpose is and how the defunding from the US will impact us in some not-so-good ways. We also take a look at the proposed Coronavirus mutation to determine if we should be worried about a lack of an effective vaccine.

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You don't want to miss this interview with Dr. Abraham Nussbaum from Denver Health! He drops some great information on maintaining mental health during these difficult times as well as seeing some silver linings in the midst of the pandemic.

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  • Social distancing strategies for curbing the COVID-19 epidemic
  • Projecting the transmission dynamics of SARS-CoV-2 through the post-pandemic period
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• Great article on answering the questions on whether or not we need to sanitize groceries.
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Stephen, Mark and Matt talk about what it means to be half way through the first phase of the pandemic in the US, and what still needs to happen before we can be let out. :-)

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• Interview with Dr. Marc Lipsitch
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• The One Thing: The Surprisingly Simple Truth Behind Extraordinary Results by Gary Keller
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Stephen, Mark and Matt discuss the possibility of Colorado flattening the curve and what that might mean for the future of Colorado as well as the rest of the country.

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• COVID-19 Projections Site where Colorado is seen as already flattening the curve.

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Today's episode highlights the options available right now for those us who struggling with student loan debt. Travis Hornsby from Student Loan Planner talks about them anyways we can create a little financial margin in our life amidst the student lean responsibilities. 

Stephen, Mark and Matt revist the face mask issue right now, and why it is really being reconsidered. We also look at a great new technology that is helping epidemiologists create models more quickly and that suggests our social distancing is doing its job!!

Finally, Matt talks about fighting the temptation to live on one of two extremes, and how to fight the temptation to do nothing or too much.

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• Kinsa Thermometer
• New York Times Article on How to Make a Face Mask and How to Properly Wear One.
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Today we talk about some encouraging things: 

• Telluride becoming the first town in the country to test antibodies of all 8,000 residents.
• The promise of the anti-malarial drug being offered to many critically ill New Yorkers.
• Some new promising antiviral drugs.
• Looking for the gift in our current circumstances.
• Matt shares a story that changed his life in New York about 12 years ago.

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Stephen, Mark and Matt are all back on together to talk about the long game plan, and discuss whether Easter is sufficient time to flatten the curve enough to go back out.

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Here is the Atlantic article that features Stephen and one of the best articles on COVID-19 in the US.

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• Social distancing strategies for curbing the COVID-19 epidemic
• Projecting the transmission dynamics of SARS-CoV-2 through the post-pandemic period

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