Warning: Spoilers Ahead!

In this week's episodes of NBC's Parks & Recreation, Leslie and Ben upend expectations when she skips the traditional “pie-mary” pie-baking contest for candidates’ wives and April finds her new career.

NPR's Linda Holmes joins us for this weekly chat about the final season of the series, known for finding humor in policy wonkiness. Holmes is host of NPR's entertainment and pop culture blog, Monkey See.

And Jodi Kantor, New York Times Washington correspondent and the author of The Obamas (Back Bay Books, 2012), offers context on gender politics and the role of the candidate's wife in American elections.