Adam welcomes Zuby in studio at the top of Part 2. The guys have a one-on-one conversation about finding connection amidst all the madness, and the rise in people being told they are ‘anti-vaxxer’ just for saying people should be able to make their own decisions. They also discuss people’s relationship with risk assessment, why we keep focusing on kids instead of the elderly, and trying to heal the nation’s divide. Later, they talk about political ideologies taking over everything, the topic of shame, and the problems with generalizing about everything. In the last part of the show, the guys talk about how Americans view liberty, facts vs. stories, and why we need a more honest media, especially during our current crises.

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