Interesting discussion with Prof.Robert Shepherd, the head of the organic robotics laboratory at Cornell University. We have recorded the first episode of the soft robotics podcast with Robert at RSS 2019. In part 2: Robert shares how the environment plays a significant role in designing soft robot energy density? How we can increase surface area to volume ratio for securing input energy are filled? Why we cannot make DEA at large volumes? Why the modeling of the scaled-down soft systems is hard? Can the material reprogram and compute itself so that it can respond in environment stimulus in different ways depending on the task it performing: shape face changing material, dissipative materials. How we can design an integrated sensing and actuating system perform efficiently? I hope you enjoy the podcast episode -:)