In 2016, Pat McCrory ran for reelection as North Carolina’s governor on the same ticket as Donald Trump. Trump carried the state, but McCrory lost by just over 10,000 votes out of more than 4.5 million cast.

In the decade since, McCrory has watched the Republican Party move in a direction he no longer fully recognizes.

This week, he sat down with the Holler to discuss January 6th, HB2 (the so-called “Bathroom Bill”), what Republicans are saying privately that they won’t say in public, and whether honest disagreement still has a place in American politics.

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