Governor Pritzker makes his move to convince Kamala to select him as VP. Ben riffs. Pat Whalen riffs on Ben's riff. Then they're off, covering everything from MAGA disarray to Trump's racism to who Kamala should select as VP. Ben's answer to the that is--anyone but Shapiro. Pat's answer is...oh, just listen, lazies. Also, why Ben wishes Shannon Sharpe or Stephen A. Smith or Monica McNutt was on the panel interviewing Trump. Pat is a comedian, talk show host, impresario and--breaking news--the Ben Joravsky Show's official correspondent at the DNC.

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