Episode No. 423 features curator Anna Katz and artist Robert Zakanitch.

The Museum of Contemporary Art, Los Angeles is presenting "With Pleasure: Pattern and Decoration in American Art 1972-1985." The exhibition is the first broad scholarly survey of one of the most important art movements to emerge out out of American feminism. Katz curated the show, which will remain on view in Los Angeles through May 11.

Robert Zakanitch was one of the founders of P&D art.