The average American has between $8,000 and $10,000 in credit card debt, and in a system that's designed to be deliberately confusing, it's a safe bet you're probably doing something wrong when trying to deal with it. This week, Noah and Raj welcome Jamie Feldman, who went viral on TikTok when she started documenting her attempts to pay down her credit card debt, to discuss all the ways we could could be doing it better.

To hear more from Jamie, check out her show Debt Heads wherever you get your podcasts.

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