Payne in the Pod

Some cases do not receive much attention from the public or investigation by the police and are left to be unsolved. They've gone cold. These cases have become the topics for the true crime and investigative podcast, The Fall Line, which focuses on unsolved cold cases in the Southeast. Hosts and college friends Laurah Norton and Brooke Hargrove join Mary Payne on this episode.

The three discuss Season 1’s case of the disappearance of The Millbrook Twins from Augusta, Georgia. They share gripping details about why it was dropped as a missing person’s case, the theories surrounding the case, and what the status of the case is today.

Season 2 of The Fall Line covers a teenage brother and sister - Michael and Monica - who were reported as runaways, but no one believed they were. A mix of familial issues, abusive behavior, and more children lead to a multi-layered complex story.

With Season 3, The Grady Babies, each episode is about a different case! They share the difficulties in covering a hard topic of babies being kidnapped, as well as how many of the kidnapped babies have been found.

This is an episode, and podcast, that you won’t want to miss.

Podcast Recommendations

This Podcast Will Kill You

Southern Fried True Crime

Don't Talk to Strangers

Ologies

In The Dark

Crime Writers On

Moms & Murder

Gone Cold

A Date With Dateline

Trace Evidence

Uncover

Root of Evil

Find The Fall Line At:

https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thefalllinepodcast/

Twitter/Instagram: @falllinepodcast

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Mary Payne is joined by tech reporter Jennings Brown, host of The Gateway podcast. This show is all about spiritual guru Teal Swan, who draws followers in through her hypnotic self-help videos aimed at people who struggle with depression and suicidal thoughts. Some argue that she leads a cult, and even she admits she has the perfect recipe for one. Some say she just has influence thanks to modern social media, and Mary Payne and Jennings discuss her followers and her ability to maintain her hold on people through the internet.

Mary Payne and Jennings explore whether Teal Swan and her "teaching" is responsible for the suicide of one or more of her followers. There is a trigger warning for this episode and The Gateway podcast overall, as it discusses suicide and the impacts it has on people.

Podcast Recommendations

Uncover:Escaping NXIVM

The Dream

Running From Cops

Find Jennings Brown At:

Instagram/Twitter: @tjenningsbrown

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Mary Payne is in the studio with Marc Groman, one of the hosts of Their Own Devices, a podcast about kids and technology; and she is left scared sh*tless. Marc is an 18-year expert in privacy and technology and previously worked in the Obama White House on privacy protection. Mary Payne and Marc discuss the boldness of kids and issues that technology and social media have brought up in the lives of kids today.

Mary Payne is astounded when she and Marc discuss sexting and different risks that kids are taking, even just to have their devices during the middle of the night. This episode—and Their Own Devices—is a must for any parent, or parental figure, as it gives an insight into the technological world of kids today.

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Mary Payne is joined by Mandy and Melissa from Moms & Murders. Mandy and Melissa are two moms that formed a friendship at an Orlando, Florida area “Mommy Meet Up” group. As a result, the two moms decided to start a podcast given their love for true crime. Their podcast features a different murder case each episode, which first started with the Caylee Anthony murder (a local-to-Orlando case from 2008). Their banter and ability to lighten the mood around topics that can be hard to discuss makes their podcast different from other true crime podcasts. Get more of this interview by becoming a Patreon Member!

Podcast Recommendations:

Varmints!

A Date with Dateline

Comedy Bang Bang

Seincast: A Seinfeld Podcast

The Fall Line

Pretend Radio

RealiTV

Good One

The Minds of Madness

People Are Wild

Find Moms & Murders at:Twitter: @momsandmurderInstagram: @momsandmurderFacebook: @momsandredrum

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Robin Warder from The Trail Went Cold joins Mary Payne in this episode of Payne In The Pod.

Each episode of his true crime podcast examines a different unsolved murder case and presents his hypothesis of what happened based on his own research. Robin reveals how he started his podcast by expanding on cases from TV’s Unsolved Mysteries and discusses the new ways DNA and genetic genealogy are helping to solve decades-old cold cases.

Listen in to learn why Robin like lesser-known cases and get details on some of the more interesting cases in this murder-packed episode!

Robin Warder’s Podcast Recommendations:

Blood and Truth

Canadian True Crime

Don't Talk To Strangers

Find Robin at:

Twitter: @robin_warder

Facebook: @thetrailwentcold

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Erica Kelley from Southern Fried True Crime leaps into all things southern with Mary Payne in this episode. Southern Fried True Crime is a podcast that tells stories of the darkest crimes occurring in the small towns of southern states. Mary Payne and Erica agree that crimes that take place in the south are rich, layered, and have a different feel to them than those that take place elsewhere. Erica enhances each crime, and story, simply in the style that she tells them - in a slow and methodical way. The two discuss some of the criticisms, and even threats, Erica has received after certain episodes that have aired.

Podcast Recommendations:

Without Warning

Gone Cold

The Fall Line

The Conspirators

Trashy Divorces

Sawbones

Once Upon a Crime

Hell and Gone

Find at:

Twitter: @southerfriedtruth

Email ideas to: [email protected]

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Not Just Telling Stories: Helping To Solve Cases

Mary Payne has Nina Innsted from Already Gone and Don’t Talk to Strangers on this episode. Nina is a teacher-turned-podcaster who grew up around murder, as her father was a defense attorney on various cases. Already Gone’s episodes cover an older unsolved murder case in each episode. Since starting it three years ago, two cases have made headway since being featured on her podcast - the Kimberlee King case was reopened and a case from the ‘80s has found some new information.

Nina’s second podcast, Don’t Talk To Strangers, focuses on the Oakland County Child Killer from 1976-1977. In a year and a half time period in Oakland County, Michigan, nine children were murdered and four of those were believed to have been by the same person. Mary Payne and Nina contemplate if DNA could prove who the Oakland County Child Killer was and if there was a copycat during the time of the killings. Nina takes each case she covers very seriously and presents them in a fashion that brings respect to those who have been lost while still presenting the facts of each case.

Nina’s Podcast Recommendations:

Generation Why

The Fall

LineArticles of Interest

History Dweebs

The Conspirators

Find Nina At:

Twitter: @alreadygonepod and @dttspod

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It Could Have Been The Perfect Crime

Mary Payne speaks with investigator Eric Benson from the true crime podcast Over My Dead Body. Season 1 is about the murder of Dan Markel, a lawyer and Florida State University teacher who was shot and killed in Tallahassee, Florida in 2014. It’s a shocking story about love, marriage, a scorned family, and the lengths people will go to get what they want.

There have been so many questions around this murder-for-hire plot: who did it, who planned it, who else was involved, and why. And of course, the most compelling question is what will happen next as trials in the case are scheduled to start in June 2019.

If you love true crime podcasts, this is one episode of Payne In The Pod you won’t want to miss.

Eric’s Podcast Recommendations:

In The Dark-Season 2

Dirty John

The Weeds

Political Gabfest

Heaven's Gate

Surviving Y2K

Find Eric and the podcast:

Over My Dead Body

Eric Benson

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Some people collect things. Some people collect interesting things. And some people collect interesting things with an amusing and thought-provoking story behind why.

This episode’s guest, David Peterkofsky, hears their stories for his podcast For Keeps. Mary Payne and David waste no time and dive into discussing all of the interesting people and collections he has had on his show. He has talked to a condom collector, Ouija Board collector, and a collector of famous typewriters just to name a few. David mentions there are endless opportunities to find stories with collectors and their “whys”. With each collector, David has found that they don’t just collect but have some real motivation behind doing so.

David's Podcast Recommendations:

Outlook

Second Life

The Carolina Shout

99% Invisible

Twenty Thousand Hertz

Find For Keeps at:

For Keeps

Twitter/Instagram/Facebook: @forkeepspodcast

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Tally Abecassis, the host of First Day Back, joins Mary Payne this week to discuss her documentary podcast that tells the stories of people as they get their lives back following tragic and life-changing events. Season One featured Tally’s personal journey from stay-at-home mom to her return to the world of documentary filmmaking.

Seasons Two and Three follows the stories of two others from differing backgrounds dealing with their own returns to a life they’d known. The podcast documents the palpable nature of a human being wanting to succeed on their own terms. Mary Payne and Tally discuss the story plots of each season and what Season Four may hold.

Podcast Recommendations:

Reply All

Art of Process

Bodies

Caliphate

Longform

Find Tally at: @TallyAbecassis

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