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Are you actually investing or just hoping the next buyer will pay more?
On Pending & Trending, Deidre Quinn draws on 20+ years in real estate and investing to explore what actually creates lasting wealth. In this episode, Paul Moore, founder of Wellings Capital, shares how house flipping, commercial real estate, and costly speculative decisions changed his approach to building wealth.
Paul explains why income is not the same as owning assets, how strong due diligence reduces risk, and why some of the best investments can feel surprisingly boring.
๐ค Host & Guest
Host: Deidre Quinn
Deidre Quinn is a Realtor, investor, and business leader with more than 20 years of experience. Pending & Trending explores building wealth, financial freedom, mindset, and long-term asset creation.
Guest: Paul Moore
Paul Moore is an entrepreneur, commercial real estate investor, and founder of Wellings Capital, which helps accredited investors access private real estate opportunities. Paul previously worked as a Realtor and house flipper before shifting his focus toward commercial real estate and long-term asset ownership.
๐ก What Youโll Learn
How to separate investing from speculation
Why earning income does not automatically mean building wealth
How Paul evaluates real estate operators before investing
Why risky floating-rate debt can create major problems
How commercial property value relates to net operating income
Why Paul prefers disciplined, โboringโ investing
How assets can support generational wealth over time
๐ Key Questions Answered
Q: Why does Paul Moore like mobile home park investing?
A: Paul Moore points to mobile home parks as a โboringโ asset with strong supply-and-demand fundamentals. He explains that the supply of mobile home parks is decreasing while demand for affordable housing continues to grow.
Q: Why does Wellings Capital invest in self-storage and mobile home parks?
A: Wellings Capital shifted toward asset types such as self-storage, mobile home parks, and small industrial properties, especially mom-and-pop-owned assets where experienced operators may be able to improve income and operations.
Q: What should investors look for in a self-storage or mobile home park operator?
A: Paul recommends reviewing the operatorโs track record, debt, references, loan documents, and actual income growth to determine whether past returns came from operational skill or simply favorable market conditions.
โณ Chapters
(00:00) - Intro
(00:27) - Meet Paul Moore
(01:27) - From Investor to Speculator
(03:28) - Why Paul Chose Commercial Real Estate
(05:30) - The Boring Investor Mindset
(06:24) - Investing vs. Speculating
(07:30) - Why Investing Should Be Boring
(08:49) - Syndication & Market Risk
(12:34) - Mobile Home Parks & Self-Storage
(14:13) - Why Great Investors Say No
(14:57) - 27-Point Due Diligence
(17:04) - How Commercial Real Estate Is Valued
(19:01) - Investing Resources
(20:38) - The Cost of Chasing Shiny Objects
(21:49) - Why Boring Assets Can Win
(22:39) - Fighting Human Traffickingย ย
๐๐ป CONNECT WITH PAUL MOORE:
โข Website: https://www.wellingscapital.com/ย
โข Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/paul.moore.7355079
โข Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paulmooreinvest/
โข LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-moore-3255924/
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๐ก A 1031 exchange isnโt just about delaying taxes - it may help investors keep capital working, adapt their portfolios, and build long-term wealth.
What if selling an investment property could become a strategic opportunity instead of the end of your investment plan? Dave Foster explains how investors can use a 1031 exchange to move across markets, change property types, and transition from active management to more passive investing.
Deidre Quinn has spent more than 20 years watching how people build wealthโand how they lose it. On Pending & Trending, Deidre speaks with Dave Foster, a qualified intermediary, accountant, founder of The 1031 Investor, and author of Lifetime Tax-Free Wealth.
Together, they break down the four Ds of 1031 investing, property consolidation, Delaware statutory trusts, syndication rules, and the importance of getting expert guidance early.
๐๏ธ Host & Guest
Host: Deidre Quinn Deidre Quinn is a Realtor, investor, and business leader with 20+ years of experience. She hosts Pending & Trending, a podcast focused on wealth creation, leadership, mindset, and financial freedom.
Guest: Dave Foster Dave Foster is a qualified intermediary, accountant, founder of The 1031 Investor, and author of Lifetime Tax-Free Wealth: The Real Estate Investorโs Guide to the 1031 Exchange. Dave educates real estate investors on tax deferral, portfolio transitions, and more passive investment structures.
๐ What Youโll Learn
๐ฐ How a 1031 exchange can help keep more capital invested after a qualifying property sale.
๐ How to move between property types and markets as opportunities change.
โณ How to align real estate investing with changing time, family, and retirement goals.
๐ข How consolidating multiple properties can reduce operational workload.
๐ฆ How triple-net properties and Delaware statutory trusts support passive investing.
โ ๏ธ Why an LLC or partnership interest may not qualify like direct real estate ownership.
๐ค Why involving a qualified intermediary early can help investors understand their options.
๐ฑ How one manageable investment step can create long-term compounding results.
โ Key Questions Answered
What is the wealth-building benefit of a 1031 exchange? A 1031 exchange may allow investors to defer taxes on a qualifying property sale and reinvest that capital into other real estate.
How can a 1031 exchange help reduce investment workload? Investors may consolidate properties, move into larger multifamily investments, use management, or consider triple-net properties and Delaware statutory trusts.
Why might an LLC or partnership interest not qualify for a 1031 exchange? A 1031 exchange generally requires an interest in the actual real estate. An interest in an LLC or partnership may not qualify in the same way.
๐ CTA & Resources
๐ง Building wealth through real estate? Listen to Dave Fosterโs practical 1031 breakdown before making your next investment move.
๐ The 1031 Investor: https://the1031investor.com
โฑ๏ธ Chapters
0:00 -ย Hook: The 4 Ds of 1031 Investing
0:33 -ย Introduction: Dave Foster & 1031
1:16 -ย How a 1031 Exchange Works
2:19 - The Four Ds of 1031 Investing
3:40 -ย Using 1031s to Follow Market Opportunities
5:24 -ย Matching 1031 Investing to Life Stages
7:20 - Step-Up Basis and Your Heirs
8:40 - Moving From Active to Passive Investing
12:30 - DSTs, Syndications, and 1031 Rules
14:48 - Why You Need a Qualified Intermediary
16:25 -ย Why Investors Overlook the 1031 Benefit
20:21 - Lifetime Tax-Free Wealth
23:50 -ย Start Small and Let Wealth Grow
25:14 -ย Closing: Building Long-Term Wealth
๐๐ป CONNECT WITH DAVE FOSTER:
โข Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DaveFoster1031
โข Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davefoster1031/
โข LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davefoster1031/
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โข LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deidre-quinn-realtor/
โผ๏ธ Stop writing huge tax checks to the IRS every time you sell an asset.
๐ In this episode of Pending and Trending, host Dedra Quinn sits down with Brendan Lewis, VP at Asset Preservation Inc., to uncover how high-net-worth real estate investors use 1031 exchanges to defer capital gains and keep their equity compounding.
๐ก Key Insights & Takeaways:
โ๏ธ The fundamental shift from per-deal thinking to multi-decade wealth planning
โ๏ธ How flexible "like-kind" rules allow you to move from single-family homes into multi-family or commercial assets
โ๏ธ How to avoid rushing decisions during the strict 45-day identification timeline
โ๏ธ Why wearing too many operational hats hurts returns and how to manage your properties like a CEO
๐ง HOSTED BY: Deidre Quinn
๐ค GUEST: Brendan Lewis โ Vice President & State Manager | Asset Preservation Incorporated
Brendan Lewis is the Vice President and State Manager for Texas and Oklahoma at Asset Preservation, Inc. A former commercial real estate broker, he specializes in helping investors and their advisory teams structure and execute IRC ยง1031 tax-deferred exchanges and implement sophisticated tax strategies.
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๐๐ป CONNECT WITH BRENDAN LEWIS:
โข Website: https://apiexchange.com/
โข LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanlewis1031/
๐๐ป FOLLOW DEIDRE QUINN โ PENDING AND TRENDING:
โข Website: https://www.deidrequinn.com/
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โญ Is your real estate portfolio truly diversified, or are you exposed to market turns?
Real estate strategist Whitney Elkins-Hutten joins host Deidre Quinn to explain why owning physical properties is only half the equation when building generational wealth.
๐ Whitney breaks down her journey from an accidental house flipper to managing large-scale portfolios. She details how to analyze market cycles, avoid major red flags in passive investments, and generate stable, monthly income through real estate debt funds.
๐ What you'll learn:
โ๏ธ The turning point that shifted Whitney from active flipping to passive investing
โ๏ธ How to evaluate risk across different layers of the capital stack
โ๏ธ Essential red flags to watch for in deal structures and sponsor terms
โ๏ธ Key lessons from Whitney's book, Money for Tomorrow, on securing family wealth
๐บ If you want to build predictable income and protect your real estate portfolio against market shifts, this episode is for you.
๐ง HOSTED BY: Deidre Quinn
๐ค GUEST: Whitney Elkins-Hutten โ Financial Mentor I Real Estate Investor I Author of Money For Tomorrow: How to Build and Protect Generational Wealth
Whitney Elkins-Hutten is the Director of Investor Education at PassiveInvesting.com, founder of AshWealth.com, and author of the bestselling book Money for Tomorrow. With a portfolio exceeding $800M in real estate across multifamily, self-storage, and car washes, she helps professionals and business owners grow and protect wealth through tax-efficient, passive investment strategies.ย
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๐๐ป CONNECT WITH WHITNEY ELKINS-HUTTEN
โข Website โ Ash Wealth: https://ashwealth.com/
โข Website โ Passive Investing: https://www.passiveinvesting.com/welcome-whitney/
โข LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/whitneyelkinshutten/
โข Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WhitneyHuttenInvesting/
โข Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whitneyhutten/
๐๐ป FOLLOW DEIDRE QUINN โ PENDING AND TRENDING:
โข Website: https://www.deidrequinn.com/
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โข LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deidre-quinn-realtor/
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๐ Quitting your W2 job overnight is not the only way to achieve financial freedom.
In this episode, Deidre Quinn talks with real estate developer Aaron Ameen about building wealth on parallel tracks. Aaron explains why maintaining job stability gives you the leverage to make calculated investments, sharing his transition from single family rentals to developing $10M luxury residential assisted living facilities in Houston.
๐ In this episode, you'll learn:
โ๏ธ The importance of maintaining a day job while building passive income
โ๏ธ How to plan and execute a multi-year investment strategy
โ๏ธ Insights into developing luxury assisted living homes
โ๏ธ The role of mindset and intentionality in financial success
โ๏ธ Navigating challenges and pivoting in real estate investments
๐ง HOSTED BY: Deidre Quinn
๐ค GUEST: Aaron Ameen โ Strategy & Finance Consultant, Investor & Host of Own Your Upside
Aaron Ameen is a real estate developer, host of the Own Your Upside podcast, and author. Alongside his wife and business partner, Andrea, he leads development and investment projects with a focus on complex deal structuring and creative financing. Aaron regularly shares insights on real estate, entrepreneurship, and long-term value creation.ย
๐ Stream the full episode to hear Aaron's practical advice on taking control of your financial future.
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๐๐ป CONNECT WITH AARON AMEEN
โข Website: https://aaronameen.com/
โข LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaron-ameen/
โข Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aaron.ameen/
โข Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aaronameenreicoach/
๐๐ป FOLLOW DEIDRE QUINN โ PENDING AND TRENDING:
โข Website: https://www.deidrequinn.com/
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โข LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deidre-quinn-realtor/
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How do you build a real estate business that runs without you? Jason Wojo joins Deidre Quinn on Pending and Trending to break down the SEAD Process (Strategize, Eliminate, Automate, Delegate) four steps in a fixed order for owners who want to work fewer hours without earning less.
Jason is CEO of Lifeonaire, a broker, and author of Business for Life. His argument: most owners build the company first and never stop to decide what they want their life to look like, so the business takes every waking hour and life gets the crumbs. He and Deidre work through what to do about it - the work to cut before automating anything, where AI actually helps and where Jason flatly won't use it, and which real estate assets are genuinely passive versus a second job in disguise.
๐ WHAT YOU'LL TAKE AWAY
โ๏ธ Why the four SEAD steps only work in order
โ๏ธ MUD: the meaningless, unnecessary, and distracting work to clear off your plate first
โ๏ธ The two things Jason refuses to use AI for, and why AI-written copy costs you client trust
โ๏ธ The reserve account to have before your first rental - and which assets are actually passive
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๐ง HOSTED BY: Deidre Quinn
๐ค GUEST: Jason Wojo, Ph.D. โ CEO of Life On Air, Business Coach & Author
Dr. Jason Wojo is the CEO of Lifeonaire, author of Business for Life, and a recovering scientist with two BS, MS, and PhD degrees who helps entrepreneurs and real estate professionals break free from hustle culture. He specializes in teaching his signature SEAD process to help business owners build highly profitable, life-first businesses and create generational wealth.ย
๐ต Whether you're an investor, agent, or homebuyer, this episode offers valuable insights!
๐๐ป CONNECT WITH JASON WOJO:
โข Website: https://lifeonaire.com/
โข Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drjasonwojo
โข Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasonwojo_official/
โข LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonwojo/
๐๐ป FOLLOW DEIDRE QUINN โ PENDING AND TRENDING:
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โข LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deidre-quinn-realtor/
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๐ In this episode of Pending and Trending, host Deidre Quinn sits down with Henry Yoshida, Co-Founder and CEO of Rocket Dollar, to explore how self-directed IRAs are transforming retirement investing. Henry shares why traditional retirement accounts may no longer provide enough diversification, how investors can use retirement funds to invest in real estate and private companies, and the common mistakes to avoid when using self-directed retirement accounts. Whether you're a real estate investor, entrepreneur, or high-income professional, this episode offers valuable insights into building long-term wealth through alternative investments.
Special offer: Use promo code DEIDREQUINN300 when signing up through our guest's website to receive $300 off your signup.ย
๐ง Hosted by: Deidre Quinn
๐ค Guest:๐ก Henry Yoshida โ Co-Founder & CEO, Rocket Dollar
Henry Yoshida is the Co-founder and CEO of Rocket Dollar, a fintech platform that empowers individuals to invest tax-advantaged retirement funds into alternative assets. As a CFPยฎ professional and licensed real estate agent with years of financial services leadership, he specializes in building high-performing teams and helping clients break free from traditional Wall Street constraints to achieve their ultimate financial goals.ย
๐ก What You'll Learn:
โ๏ธ What a self-directed IRA is and how it differs from traditional retirement accounts
โ๏ธ Why diversification beyond stocks and mutual funds matters more than ever
โ๏ธ How to invest retirement funds in real estate, private equity, and startups
โ๏ธ Common IRS prohibited transactions and mistakes investors should avoid
โ๏ธ Why wealthy investors build diversified portfolios using alternative assets
๐ต Whether you're an investor, agent, or homebuyer, this episode offers valuable insights!
๐ผ Connect with Henry Yoshida:
๐ Website โ https://www.rocketdollar.com/
๐ธ Instagram โ https://www.instagram.com/henrythecfp/
๐ LinkedIn โ https://www.linkedin.com/in/henryyoshida/
๐ Follow Deidre Quinn โ Pending and Trending:
๐ Website โ https://www.deidrequinn.com/
๐ท Instagram โ https://www.instagram.com/teamquinnstagram/
๐ LinkedIn โ https://www.linkedin.com/in/deidre-quinn-realtor/
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๐ What if financial freedom isn't about saving millionsโbut about creating consistent cash flow? In this episode of Pending and Trending, host Deidre Quinn sits down with Chris Miles, founder of Money Ripples and author of The Work Optional Blueprint, to challenge traditional retirement planning. Chris shares why he walked away from Wall Street, how he became financially independent in his 20s, recovered after losing over $1 million during the recession, and the mindset shifts that help investors create lasting passive income. From real estate and alternative investments to AI's role in financial advice, this conversation offers a fresh perspective on building wealth.
๐ง Hosted by: Deidre Quinn
๐ค Guest: ๐ก Chris Miles โ Financial Strategist, Founder of Money Ripples, Author & Podcast Host
Chris Miles is the founder of Money Ripples, author of Work Optional Blueprint, and host of the Money Ripples Podcast. A former financial advisor, he is known for his approach to building passive income outside traditional Wall Street strategies and has been featured in outlets including CNN Money, BiggerPockets, and Entrepreneurs on Fire.
๐ก What You'll Learn:
โ๏ธ Why traditional retirement strategies often fail investors
โ๏ธ The difference between accumulating wealth and generating cash flow
โ๏ธ Chris' "Get Lean, Get Liquid, Get Out" framework for financial freedom
โ๏ธ How passive income can make work optional years earlier than expected
โ๏ธ Why investors should think critically before relying on AI for financial advice
๐ต Whether you're an investor, entrepreneur, or someone looking to achieve financial freedom faster, this episode delivers practical strategies and fresh perspectives on building lasting wealth.
๐ผ Connect with Chris Miles:
๐ Website โ https://www.moneyripples.com/
๐ Facebook โ https://www.facebook.com/chris.miles9177/
๐ LinkedInย โ https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriscmiles
๐ Follow Deidre Quinn โ Pending and Trending:
๐ Website โ https://www.deidrequinn.com/
๐ท Instagram โ https://www.instagram.com/teamquinnstagram/
๐ LinkedIn โ https://www.linkedin.com/in/deidre-quinn-realtor/
๐ Donโt Forget to LIKE ๐, SUBSCRIBE ๐ & COMMENT ๐ฌ Below!๐ Produced by Icons of Real Estate - https://iconsofrealestate.com/
๐ In this episode of Pending and Trending, Deidre Quinn sits down with Loren G. Wernette, Founder and CEO of REI Transactional, to explore the world of private lending, real estate debt funds, and passive investing. Loren shares his journey from agriculture and marketing into real estate entrepreneurship, explains how private debt funds work, and discusses the strategies he uses to protect investor capital while generating consistent returns. Whether you're an active real estate investor or a busy professional looking to diversify your portfolio, this episode is packed with valuable insights on building long-term wealth.
๐ง Hosted by: Deidre Quinn
๐ค Guest:๐ก Loren G. Wernette โ Founder & CEO, REI Transactional
Loren Wernette is the founder and CEO of REI Transactional, managing two private real estate debt funds that build generational wealth for accredited investors. Based in North Carolina, the firm specializes in short-term bridge loans across the Southeast secured by first-position commercial liens. Built from the ground up to provide reliable capital, he pairs his operator background with active involvement in local real estate communities like TREX and TREIA.ย
๐ก What You'll Learn:
โ๏ธ How private real estate debt funds generate returns for investors
โ๏ธ Loren's journey from real estate investor to private lender
โ๏ธ Risk management strategies for protecting investor capital
โ๏ธ Common mistakes investors make when using private financing
โ๏ธ How busy professionals can build wealth through passive real estate investing
๐ต Whether you're an investor, agent, or homebuyer, this episode offers valuable insights!
๐ผ Connect with Loren G. Wernette:
๐ Website โ https://www.reitransactional.com/home
๐ Website โ https://www.reihighyield.com/home
๐ Facebook โ https://www.facebook.com/loren.wernette
๐ท Instagram โ https://www.instagram.com/investwithloren/
๐ LinkedIn โ https://www.linkedin.com/in/loren-wernette-8124a441/
๐ Follow Deidre Quinn โ Pending and Trending:
๐ Website โ https://www.deidrequinn.com/
๐ท Instagram โ https://www.instagram.com/teamquinnstagram/
๐ LinkedIn โ https://www.linkedin.com/in/deidre-quinn-realtor/
๐ Donโt Forget to LIKE ๐, SUBSCRIBE ๐ & COMMENT ๐ฌ Below!
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๐ In this inspiring episode of Pending and Trending, host Deidre Quinn sits down with entrepreneur, author, and relationship marketing expert JORDAN L. ADLER to discuss the principles behind his bestselling book Beach Money. Jordan shares how he built a life centered on flexibility, residual income, and meaningful relationships. From the power of compounding effort and passive income strategies to the importance of authentic human connection in an AI-driven world, this conversation offers actionable insights for real estate professionals, entrepreneurs, and anyone looking to build long-term success.
๐ง Hosted by: Deidre Quinn
๐ค Guest:๐ก Jordan L. Adler -ย Entrepreneur, Author, Speaker & Relationship Marketing Expert
Jordan L. Adler is a highly successful entrepreneur, network marketing professional, and the author of the best-selling book Beach Money. He is widely known for his expertise in relationship marketing and for teaching others how to build residual income to achieve financial freedom.
๐ก What Youโll Learn:
โ๏ธ The core philosophy behind Beach Money and residual income
โ๏ธ Why relationship marketing is more important than ever
โ๏ธ How to increase your lifetime customer value
โ๏ธ The role of AI and technology in the future of business
โ๏ธ Practical ways to build trust, loyalty, and referrals
๐ต Whether you're an investor, agent, entrepreneur, or business owner, this episode offers valuable insights for creating sustainable success and stronger relationships.
๐ผ Connect with JORDAN L. ADLER:
๐ Facebook โ https://www.facebook.com/jordanladler/
๐ธ Instagram โ https://www.instagram.com/beachmoneyjordan/
๐ผ LinkedIn โ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordanladler/
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๐ท Instagram โ https://www.instagram.com/teamquinnstagram/
๐ LinkedIn โ https://www.linkedin.com/in/deidre-quinn-realtor/
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