Peter and Phil's Courageous Conversations

Peter & Phil welcome special guest and lawyer, Shannon Jenkins to the podcast to discuss protective classes.  Not only does Shannon offer a different perspective, but she also gives her insight on social issues from a more conservative point of view.  Join us for the first half of the interview from the unique perspective of a lawyer, with some feminine energy to boot!  

Collective effervescence, a sociological concept coined by Émile Durkheim, is a community or society that comes together to communicate the same thought and participate in the same action.  This week, Peter & Phil continue last week's conversation and ask if music helps us come together collectively?  Join us as we dig deeper into this topic!

Peter enlightens Phil that they'll start playing the 'black national anthem' at ball games now, which leads Peter to confide he's never heard 'Lift Every Voice & Sing.'  Join us or another Courageous Conversation this week & check out www.peterandphil.com to join the conversation as well! 

Changing things up this week - Peter & Phil get interviewed by Dr. Courtney Campbell and discuss why they started the Courageous Conversations podcast, and what motivates them to keep going.  Almost a year in, and they're still going strong thanks to supporters like you. 

Thank you so much for joining us and continuing to listen in!  Tune in Nov. 4th as conservative attorney Shannon M. Jenkins joins the Courageous Conversation! You won't want to miss it.

Interested in being on the show?   Peter & Phil are switching up the format and bringing in guests.  If interested, please reach out to us on the website at peterandphil.com, and if a fit, a representative will reach out to you to schedule a date and time to appear on the show. 

Some leaders have been taking complex issues and offering simple solutions that barely address the problem. Why has there been such a  'dumbing down' on complex issues like voting fraud &  America's labor shortage - when the answers aren't just black or white?   Are our politicians and leaders to blame?  Peter and Phil offer some insight with this week's discussion.  Join us!

Peter & Phil continue last week's conversation in remembrance of 9/11.  Phil shares a time when he and his wife had an expensive dinner at one of the twin towers in New York, while Peter goes on to share a unique experience he had regarding currency exchange rate on a trip with his wife.  Join us for a fun, light-hearted conversation this week!

On the 20th anniversary,  Peter & Phil both recall where they were the moment the first plane hit the Twin Towers in NYC twenty years ago on 9/11.  

Picking up from last week's conversation, Peter asks Phil about leadership.  Phil shares he's overstayed his welcome as a dean which leads the two to reflect on what it takes to keep a college up-to-date, fresh, and continuously implementing new ideas.  What exactly makes a good leader/dean? Peter & Phil offer some insight! Join us, for another courageous conversation!

Phil asks Peter to describe what he thinks an 'angry black man' looks like and the two then delve into a conversation about code-switching, tone policing, and why black male leaders like Malcolm X and Muhammed Ali came across as 'threatening.' Don't understand those concepts?  Join us for another courageous conversation!

After Peter & Phil, both put out statements supporting the Stop Asian Hate movement,  Peter shares he received some negative backlash.  This leads to the question: Why do we generally avoid speaking on key racial issues? Is it fear? Peter & Phil offer their insight in today's episode. Join us & share your comments at PeterandPhil.com!