Dean speaks (in person!) with Peter Gelderloos, whose work has profoundly shaped Dean’s political development since he first encountered How Nonviolence Protects the State in the early 2000s. Together, they discuss revolutionary tactics, the criminalization of resistance, and how to challenge dominant narratives of pacifism. Peter also describes an “ecosystem of revolt” and shares an image that helped Dean conceptualize the new introduction to the recently released second edition of his book, Mutual Aid. Video of this episode is available on YouTube.

Check our Peter's books at the links below, along with three recent short videos he made with subMedia, “It’s Revolution or Death,” and some additional interviews.

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More from Peter:

How Nonviolence Protects the State

The Solutions are Already Here

Anarchy Works

They Will Beat the Memory Out of Us

It’s Revolution or Death: A 3-Part Video Series from subMedia and Peter Gelderloos

The Final Straw Radio: Peter Gelderloos on Memory, Community, Organization, and Struggle

Last Born in The Wilderness: How Nonviolence Protects the State / Peter Gelderloos