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Peter Gower & Chris Menges - Forward-Looking Approaches to the West's Energy Transition


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Peter Gower is the Nature Conservancy’s Climate and Renewable Energy Program Director for the Western United States and Canada Divisions, and Chris Menges is the Director of Climate Action for the Colorado Chapter of the Nature Conservancy. Both Peter and Chris are on the front lines of North America’s transition from fossil fuels to renewables, working to find solutions that protect and benefit working lands, natural landscapes, wildlife, and communities.

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As you’ll hear in this episode, the transition from fossil fuels to renewables is an incredibly complex process, and Peter and Chris are highly skilled at breaking down the issues and explaining them in a substantive yet easy-to-understand manner. While the details of their work may be complicated, everything Peter and Chris do is built on the very simple foundation of strong relationships, partnerships, and trust, which has been the common theme of all of these TNC-focused episodes.

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We connected virtually and had a great conversation about The Nature Conservancy’s work in the renewables space, exploring everything from TNC’s big-picture strategies in the American West, down to a few on-the-ground examples of successful initiatives and projects. We discussed how TNC is working with Western states to help them achieve their energy goals and some of the specific renewable work being done here in Colorado.

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We also talked about the challenges of finding sites for renewable energy projects, how market incentives can be used to ensure siting that benefits both people and nature, and recently passed legislation in Colorado that addresses these issues. We chatted about TNC’s extensive research in the renewables space, including its Power of Place studies. As usual, we discuss their favorite books and some resources to learn more about the issues surrounding renewable energy.

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Renewable energy has long been one of those topics that I have never been able to fully wrap my head around, but after this conversation, I felt that I had a solid foundation of knowledge– as well as the curiosity and desire to go out and learn more.

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A huge thanks to Peter and Chris for devoting the time to have this extremely educational conversation, and thank you for listening.

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  • Peter Gower
  • Chris Menges
  • TNC’s energy work
  • Power of Place West Report
  • Full episode notes and links: https://mountainandprairie.com/peter-chris/

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This episode is brought to you in partnership with the Colorado chapter of The Nature Conservancy and TNC chapters throughout the Western United States. Guided by science and grounded by decades of collaborative partnerships, The Nature Conservancy has a long-standing legacy of achieving lasting results to create a world where nature and people thrive.

On the last Tuesday of every month throughout 2024, Mountain & Prairie will be delving into conversations with a wide range of The Nature Conservancy’s leaders, partners, collaborators, and stakeholders, highlighting the myriad of conservation challenges, opportunities, and solutions here in the American West and beyond.

To learn more about The Nature Conservancy’s impactful work in the West and around the world, visit www.nature.org

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TOPICS DISCUSSED:

3:20 - The state of renewables in the West (Peter)

8:05 - Chris’s renewable work on the ground in CO with TNC (Chris)

12:35- Challenges and opportunities associated with finding physical sites for renewable projects (Chris)

15:50 - Examples of market incentives that Chris thinks would help develop renewable sites to the benefit of as many interests as possible (Chris and Peter) 

22:20 - Discussing the Power of Place studies (Peter)

26:35 - Other major challenges to implementing more renewable energy solutions (Peter)

33:05 - Discussing the Connected West study, to be released soon (Peter)

36:20 - Building relationships with businesses and large entities (Peter)

39:05 - Discussing Colorado SB24-212 (Chris)

47:35 - Developing renewable energy sites on “brownfields” (Peter)

51:05 - Where to learn more about renewable energy (Peter and Chris)

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