Peter and Phil continue their conversation with Rob Best this week & discuss what it was like watching his black father navigate through the world. They also discuss the nonprofit youth organization Students for the Advancement of Global Leadership (more info at www.sageglobal.org and the great steps they have taken to help the future leaders of the world. It's another Courageous Conversation you won't want to miss!

Peter and Phil interview international keynote speaker, Rob Best, CVPM, CFN about growing up mixed race (black & white) yet passing more as white. In this interview, Rob discusses his address at the Hill's Juneteenth event and how speaking on his family history helped him learn even more about his roots. Rob also touches on how sports helped him to blend into different cultural environments as a child and the differences he now faces blending as an adult. It's truly a courageous conversation you do not want to miss!

Peter and Phil discuss the latest ruling on Affirmative Action and what it means for college admissions. Will it restrict access to quality education or will colleges step up and continue to take the lead? Phil also stresses the importance of reading the bills and decisions and making up one's own opinion versus accepting what is told to us via the news. Join us for another courageous conversation.

Phil tells Peter he was influenced by Martin Luther King, especially watching him as a child during the 60's. Grab the book King, A Life by Johnathan E.I.G. and join in this discussion as well!

Peter & Phil discuss Phil's leadership roles from high school through Vet Med School. Is Phil considering a political run in his hometown? Tune in to find out!

Phil starts discussing the book Eloquent Rage by Brittney Cooper, and Peter asks Phil if he was ever made to feel as though he wasn't "black enough" at any point himself. This leads them into another courageous conversation on the integration of Phil's high school and how he handled a Student Body President race that came down to only a few votes between him and his white opponent. It's an episode you won't want to miss!

Peter and Phil address diversity in the Vet Tech programs as well as other concerns with special guest Beckie Mossor. Join us for the second half of last week's discussion regarding the Vet Tech profession!

Peter & Phil bring in a special guest and Vet Tech, Beckie Mossor, RVT, to discuss the role of the Vet tech, reasons for the current Vet Tech shortage, and gain insight into this growing profession. Join us for another courageous conversation.

Peter & Phil have a discussion on the pros and cons of telehealth in the Vet med profession. Love it or hate it, it's here to stay. Join the discussion!

This week marks the 3rd anniversary of Peter & Phil's conversations, with over three years and seasons of courageous conversations! To honor their anniversary, this week will be a revisit to their initial discussion where Peter calls Phil to try to understand what is happening after George Floyd's death and protests. We welcome you to take a listen to the conversation that started it all and tell us - how much you think has changed since then. How much further do we still have to go?