Carson and I talked off the top about Gundy’s recruiting strategy, OSU’s slide into the 40s in recruiting rankings and why all of this is a problem.

We also discussed Chris Carson’s 1,000-yard season, who we think will start for OSU hoops in 2019-20 and previewed the Liberty Bowl (along with uni predictions).

Here’s the Bill Haisten piece we discussed at length.

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