The mysterious bidding process. What is a bid? (hint: when you compete for a shoot against 2 other photographers) Where do they come from? How long do they last? What kind of work goes into them? It’s impossible to not talk about bidding without talking about treatments. We get into the importance of treatments and what should be going into them to land you the job!

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We get into the actual process of shooting the cookbook, once your estimate and contract (listen to part 1) are approved! We chat about everything from shot lists to schedules to grocery lists, to must haves on set.

Each week, Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things photography industry and business.

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Cookbooks are a huge labor of love and a lot goes into getting one off the ground. We'll chat about our experiences landing cookbook projects, estimating, contracts, advances, and even being your own producer.

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Test shoots have many benefits for your photography career (and sanity). Maybe it’s to expand or grow your portfolio. Or perhaps you’d like to try working with different stylists. Or you have a personal project that you’re passionate about. In this episode, we chat about why we test. And the differences between testing for yourself and testing for a moodboard.

Links mentioned in episode: “All Advertising Looks the Same These Days. Blame the Moldboard” by Elizabeth Goodspeed

Each week, Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things photography industry and business.

Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to:

Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com

Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com

We chat about our different experiences of when we felt ready for an agent, finding the agency that felt like the right fit, and what it's like working with them. Hint: You do not kick back, while the jobs start pouring in.

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We discuss bidding against each other for a commercial job. We also touch on when current trends are not your style.

Each week, Ren + Jennifer get into the nitty gritty of all things photography industry and business.

Want us to discuss your specific experience or question? Send feedback or questions to:

Follow Ren’s work: @ren_fuller and www.renfuller.com

Follow Jennifer’s work: @jchongstudio and www.jchongstudio.com

We’ll talk about the most common crew roles on set, when to bring on a team, crew rates and set etiquette.

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How to handle inquiries with and without an agent plus the importance of advances and how much to ask for.

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Our new podcast baby is here! Photo Dump is a podcast by and for working photographers, created by Ren Fuller and Jennifer Chong. Each week we'll get into the nitty gritty of work life in the commercial photography industry. We hope to provide insight into things that everyone struggles with but no one talks about. If you have any questions or experiences that you'd like us to discuss on a future episode, shoot us an email at [email protected] and subscribe to our newsletter for updates on our show - www.photodump.club