In this episode of the Psyche Podcast, I sit down once again with my good friend Phuc Luu to discuss his newest book, Jesus and Buddha Talk About Desire, Suffering, and Happiness. I’ve always admired Phuc’s ability to weave together deep philosophical insight and spiritual imagination, and this book is no exception.

We dive into the inspiration behind his fictional dialogue between Yeshua and Siddhartha—a creative, meditative work that explores how these two towering spiritual figures might reflect on three of life’s biggest themes: desire, suffering, and happiness. We talk about the religious and cultural baggage many of us carry around desire, why imagination is essential to theology, and how identity can both ground us and limit us.

We also reflect on what it means to live a life of freedom and happiness—not as a pursuit of something out there, but as a presence we awaken to. Whether you come from a Buddhist, Christian, or entirely different background, I think you’ll find Phuc’s vision of dialogue, connection, and interbeing to be a breath of fresh air in today’s polarized world.

If you’re interested in picking up his book or joining a discussion group, head over to phucluu.com. And as always, thanks for tuning in.