A devastating defeat to the top of the ladder Swans on Friday night, particularly after being beyond five goals ahead early in the final term, and while mathematically we are still a chance to feature in September action, we will have to face the reality that our premiership defence has all but ended.

Join Nicholas Sacco, Luke Humphries and Marcus Callahan as we discuss what went wrong in the loss to Sydney away from home, the short and long term issues that need addressing, plus we get your thoughts on AskPiesNation and get back to our VFL and Guess the Crowd competitions.

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