The common wisdom is that we should always choose consistency over intensity, but is that always the best advice? We value consistency – and both want to work on this personally – but sometimes there are moments or activities that require a more intense approach or sprint to the finish.

This week, we chat about:

- how sustainable an intensity-minded approach really is

- whether people are naturally inclined to be better at consistency or intensity

- navigating consistency vs. intensity in relationships and teams

- & many running and fitness metaphors!

Mentioned in the episode:

Simon Sinek on Intensity vs Consistency: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5OV3RmXhbg 

Judy's Family Cafe Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/judysfamilycafe/ 

I Tried the 10-10 Decluttering Method — and I've Never Felt so Productive: https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/home/organizing/a64434102/10-10-decluttering-method/ 

“Drama Free: A Guide to Managing Unhealthy Family Relationships” by Nedra Glover Tawwab: https://www.nedratawwab.com/drama-free 

Mattie James: https://www.instagram.com/themattiejames/ 

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Have you ever found yourself busy working on a project but having nothing to show for it at the end of the week? Guilty. Many of us can easily get caught in a loop of systems, checklists, and processes only to realize we’re not actually moving forward. It can be hard to tell when to dedicate more time to planning and setup and when to prioritize doing the work (and refining as you go).

To figure this out, we discuss:

- Questions to ask yourself when deciding whether to focus on progress or process

- When overprocessing is a mask for perfectionism and procrastination

- The luxury of anonymity and making progress when no one’s watching

- Using challenges to create momentum and actually get things done

- & so much more!

Mentioned in the episode:

Roadbook: https://roadbook.com/ 

Roadbook Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/roadbook/

Sinners: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31193180/ 

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We’ve all hit periods when the honeymoon is over or you’ve hit a plateau and you’re too fatigued to keep the momentum going. It’s a familiar feeling of being tired or lacking motivation—whether it’s a professional or personal pursuit.

To get out of these ruts, we discuss:

- recognizing the different types of exhaustion (from overwhelm to boredom)

- why overindulgence and deprioritizing self-care aren’t a long-term fix

- tips for redirecting restlessness into something energizing that you can use 

- knowing when to take a break or push through

- and whether we prefer to eat the frog or use the snowball method to actually get things done

Mentioned in the episode:

Nine Strategies To Push Past Fatigue And Accomplish Your Goals Each Day: https://www.forbes.com/councils/theyec/2021/06/01/nine-strategies-to-push-past-fatigue-and-accomplish-your-goals-each-day/ 

Adolescence: https://www.netflix.com/watch/81763204

How to Make Millions Before Grandma Dies: https://www.netflix.com/watch/81786970 

“Tell Me Everything” by Minka Kelly: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250852069/tellmeeverything/ 

Agent Nateur Calm (Beauty) Spermidine & Taurine Daily Supplement: https://www.agentnateur.com/products/calm-beauty-spermidine-taurine-daily-supplement 

BIOptimizers Magnesium Breakthrough Supplement: https://bioptimizers.com/shop/products/magnesium-breakthrough 

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Here we go again! The word on everyone’s lips right now around jobs and money is recession. Whether this is your first recession or you’ve been through this rodeo many times, now is a good time to start thinking about readying your money and reading all the “recession-proof your career” articles.  

We chat about:

- not making all decisions from a place of fear 

- why this could be a great time to make bold career/life decisions 

- passive vs. proactive approaches to financial preparation

- leaning into community and avoiding isolation

- and more!

Reminder: We are not financial advisors so take our commentary with a grain of salt and consult an advisor before making any money moves!

Mentioned in the episode:

Is the U.S. Heading Into a Recession Amid Trump’s Tariffs?: https://time.com/7274531/trump-tariffs-is-the-us-heading-into-a-recession-stock-market-fears/ 

“How to Recession Proof Your Finances” by One Big Happy Life YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf2-gkXtsFs 

Monica Razak YouTube: https://youtube.com/@monicarazak 

Kat Stickler on Low Maintenance Friends (TikTok): https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTj1Rjo2X/ 

MOFT: https://www.moft.us/

Prevention: https://www.prevention.com/

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Whether you call it a micro-retirement or a sabbatical or funemployment, the idea of taking a period of not working (or scaling back work) in the middle of your career isn’t something new. We’re all likely to be working longer, and living longer, so waiting until 65 to formally retire and enjoy your life doesn’t feel like a guarantee the way it did for our parents’ or grandparents’ generation. Renée has taken one and highly recommends a break for anyone who can fit it into their budget and lifestyle. 

This week, we discuss:

- planning your micro-retirement or career break

- if forced unemployment (like a layoff or firing) counts?

- using the break to relieve burnout, pursue passion projects, or pivot careers

- building a balanced life/career where you don’t need breaks

- and so much more!

Mentioned in the episode:

Burned-out Workers are Considering 'Micro-retirement.' Here's What It Is and How to Do It Successfully: https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-micro-retirement-burn-out-work-sabbatical-2024-12 

You’re Going to Work a Long Time. Here’s How to Build in Breaks: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/11/your-money/work-time-out-career-longevity.html 

@brianluebben TikTok on Micro-Retirement: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2TVQfD3/ 

‘Micro-Retirement’: The New Career Trend Rising Among Gen Z: https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanrobinson/2025/01/29/micro-retirement-the-new-career-trend-rising-among-gen-z/ 

Data Shows Retirement’s Negative Effect on Mortality Rates: https://business.purdue.edu/news/features/2022/retirement.php 

The WonderMart: https://www.thewondermart.shop/ 

OPI Put It In Neutral: https://www.opi.com/products/nail-lacquer-put-it-in-neutral 

Pamela Anderson Substack: https://pamelaanderson.substack.com/ 

“How to Move With Fear in Life & Business” by Glo Atanmo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyMU3JHDzOc 

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Like many people, we are huge fans of the hit Apple TV+ show Severance. It’s very bingeable and made us think about our own POVs on compartmentalizing our work and career from the rest of our lives. Is focusing entirely on productivity at the office and then never bringing work home a sign of good work-life balance, or are there downsides to mentally writing off huge chunks of your day?

This week, we’re doing something different with a TV episode to chat about some of the show’s themes—we promise no spoilers!— and discuss:

- if we’d choose severance

- whether “bringing your whole self” to work is ever a good idea

- embracing the many roles we play in life vs. limiting ourselves to one identity

- how similar our innies and outies would be

- and much more! (#PraiseKier)

Mentioned in the episode:

Severance: https://tv.apple.com/us/show/severance/umc.cmc.1srk2goyh2q2zdxcx605w8vtx 

‘Severance’ Is Officially Apple TV+’s Most Popular Show Ever: https://www.forbes.com/sites/dimitarmixmihov/2025/02/19/severance-is-officially-apple-tvs-most-popular-show-ever/ 

Call Her Daddy’s “Ellen Pompeo: Pick Me, Choose Me, Pay Me More”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jex1tGfWpno 

“The Work You Do, the Person You Are” by Toni Morrison: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/06/05/toni-morrison-the-work-you-do-the-person-you-are 

Buffy Neck Pain Relief Pillow: https://buffy.co/products/neck-pain-relief-pillow

Danny & Coop’s Cheesesteaks: https://www.instagram.com/dannyandcoops/ 

Perfect Days: https://www.hulu.com/movie/a68e2d56-eeb8-44f3-baaa-3ddb850bb67b 

We the Urban x Doechii: https://www.instagram.com/wetheurban/p/DHjJJvGvk7P/ 

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Whether you live in the public eye or a more private life, sometimes the things we do or even just the way we exist in the world ruffles some feathers. It can feel like the more we’re doing big things or growing in popularity or visibility, the more we attract unwanted (and unwarranted) hate – especially for women. But the tradeoff is silencing yourself and not leaning into your greatness…so we say, push through the criticism and do it anyway!

This week, we get into:

- the “crabs in a bucket” mentality 

- pushing through the fear of standing out

- filtering the noise to find constructive criticism

- & much more

Mentioned in the episode:

Trashie: https://www.trashie.io/ 

Trashie, How We Recycle Textiles: https://www.trashie.io/how-we-recycle-textiles-tbb 

TJ Maxx: https://tjmaxx.tjx.com 

Myleik Teele Threads: https://www.threads.net/@myleik 

Brianna Wiest Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/briannawiest/ 

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We’re back with a Part 2 to last week’s episode! This week, we’re talking about building good night routines, because what we do the night before sets us up for a better day.

We get into:

- our ideal nighttime routines

- our favorite tools and purchases for a better wind down or sleep routine

- how poor evening habits impact our performance

- and so much more!

Mentioned in the episode:

Kasa: https://www.kasasmart.com/

Hatch Alarm: https://www.hatch.co/ 

SILKE Londn: https://www.silkelondon.com/ 

CNP Laboratory Propolis Lipcerin (Honey Lip Butter): https://www.amazon.com/CNP-Honey-Butter-fl-oz-15ml/dp/B0CZXG68J4/ 

Fluff and Tuff: https://fluffandtuff.com/ 

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Rise and shine! This week, we’re discussing morning routines and how to build a morning program that sets us up to have a good day so we can live our best lives. We both believe it’s important to carve out time for self-care to pour into yourself so you’re not rolling out of bed and immediately into a meeting or emails.

We chat about:

- comparing our mornings to the aesthetic routines on social media 

- routines vs. rituals to kickstart the day

- some of our favorite ideal AM habits

- finding and using your chronotype to build a morning schedule

- & much more!

Mentioned in the episode:

The Morning Routines of Successful People: https://www.wework.com/ideas/professional-development/management-leadership/the-morning-routines-of-successful-people

“The 5AM Club: Own Your Morning. Elevate Your Life.” by Robin Sharma: https://www.robinsharma.com/books/the-5am-club 

Chronoquiz: What’s Your Chronotype?: https://sleepdoctor.com/sleep-quizzes/chronotype-quiz 

“The Power of When: Discover Your Chronotype--and the Best Time to Eat Lunch, Ask for a Raise, Have Sex, Write a Novel, Take Your Meds, and More” by Dr. Michael Breus: https://sleepdoctor.com/books 

Millie Bobby Brown Instagram Reel on Media Scrutiny & Bullying: https://www.instagram.com/p/DGwZgLXSJuH/ 

With Love, Meghan: https://www.netflix.com/title/81770808 

Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky: https://wondery.com/shows/reclaiming-with-monica-lewinsky/ 

Baboon to the Moon TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT29ctGcg/ 

Baboon to the Moon: https://baboontothemoon.com/ 

Rose Han: https://rosehan.com/ 

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Ina Garten – aka the Barefoot Contessa – is the author of “Be Ready When The Luck Happens: A Memoir” (along with 13 New York Times bestselling cookbooks), a beloved Food Network personality, Instagram sensation, and cultural icon. This was a slightly different book club pick for us, and we loved it! Ina’s memoir not only has an incredible, eye-catching title, but it’s full of life lessons and business advice about productivity, hard work, and love hidden in many charming anecdotes and stories.

For this book club chat, we dove into:

- her unique career path and willingness to start something new (at any age)

- having the right partner(s) to believe in and support you

- the importance of trying many things to figure out what feels right

- our favorite life and career lessons from Ina’s journey

- and so much more!

As Ina says, “You never know your good breaks from your bad ones.”

Mentioned in the episode:

“Be Ready When the Luck Happens” by Ina Garten: https://barefootcontessa.com/books/be-ready-when-the-luck-happens 

Heather McMahan Does Ina Garten: https://www.instagram.com/heatherkmcmahan/tv/B976Ro1J1qP/ 

Ina Garten Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/inagarten 

The Oprah Podcast with Ina Garten: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKs-2qufe80 

SmashingGold: https://www.instagram.com/smashinggold/ 

MAED Beauty: https://www.maedbeauty.com

Raven Ross Instagram Reel on “What You’re Not Changing, You’re Choosing”: https://www.instagram.com/p/DGYeEWZxKul/ 

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